[AusNOG] Deciding on Juniper vs. Brocade

[Kurt Bales]

I would strongly suggest using EX4300 where you have the choice and the
feature set isn't going to be a hard limitation today.

You can compare features using the following two links:
 - Standalone:
www.juniper.net/techpubs/en_US/release-independent/junos/topics/concept/ex-series-software-features-overview.html
 - Virtual Chassis -
www.juniper.net/techpubs/en_US/release-independent/junos/topics/concept/ex-series-software-features-overview-vc.html

The EX4300 is a better long term investment given the direction the Juniper
switching division is heading, even considering the short term increase in
buy price compared to EX4200.

Regards,

Kurt Bales

On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:38 PM, Christopher Pollock <
chris at ionetworks.com.au> wrote:

> Negative, red six.  Check the spec sheets closely, there are some noteable
> weaknesses.  Also the 42 can VCP over fibre ports if you have them.
>  Pricing is usually better for the 42 as well.
>
> I say this as someone who sells these things, and wants to sell you as
> much as possible.. you're probably better off with the cheaper one.  We
> sell a metric eff-tonne of 4200s and very few 43s.  It all depends on use
> case and what features you need as IIRC the advanced feature license
> enables different things and different features come on standard.
>
> On Tuesday, 5 August 2014, Peter Childs <pchilds at staff.iinet.net.au>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>  At a glance the EX4300 appears better in terms of everything (including
>> value) than EX4200 ?    Am I missing something?
>>
>>  (it appears ex4300 can not 'virtual chassis it with ex4200 devices, if
>> that is important ..)
>>
>>  Be interesting in anyone's opinion that has 4300's in the field.
>>
>>   From: Christopher Pollock <chris at ionetworks.com.au>
>> Date: Tuesday, 5 August 2014 3:12 pm
>> To: Tom Storey <tom at snnap.net>
>> Cc: "ausnog at lists.ausnog.net" <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Deciding on Juniper vs. Brocade
>>
>>   Hi Rhys,
>>
>>  Any reason you're looking at the EX3300/EX4300 over the 32/4200?  You
>> may find them better value/featureset for your dollar.
>>
>>  Cheers,
>>
>> --
>> Christopher Pollock,
>> io Networks Pty Ltd.
>> e. chris at ionetworks.com.au
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>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 5:25 AM, Tom Storey <tom at snnap.net> wrote:
>>
>>> In my own personal experience, the Brocade CLI is Cisco like, but
>>> annoyingly nothing like it. Sometimes what you instinctively think you
>>> should be able to do, you cant. You cant assume a book has the same
>>> contents based on its cover in this particular scenario, but I guess
>>> like any other vendor its just a matter of learning the differences.
>>>
>>> On 30 July 2014 18:27, Andy Davidson <andy at nosignal.org> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > On 30 Jul 2014, at 04:15, Rhys Hanrahan <rhys at nexusone.com.au> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> I'm looking for people's recommendations that could be given to pick
>>> one over the other, as I'm having a tough time deciding. Based on the
>>> technical specs, and feature listings of both sets of hardware, I can't
>>> find a major technical reason to pick one over the other - they are mostly
>>> pretty closely matched for what we need. So I'm more focused on trying to
>>> find out what people's experiences are generally, so I can get a "safety in
>>> numbers" sort of approach.
>>> >
>>> > We took 5 vendors through to a detailed drill down when we built the
>>> 100% fully automated wholesale carrier at www.allegro.net and Juniper
>>> had the most complete automation/api, so we went with those guys.  It’s
>>> good stuff.  We use netconf over ssh rather than their orchestration
>>> abstraction stuff (like Space) but I like it.
>>> >
>>> > Software reliability (we’re nowhere near bleeding edge) is good,
>>> hardware reliability is acceptable.
>>> >
>>> > Andy
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