[AusNOG] Screw the NBN, says TPG: We’ll do our own FTTB

Tue Sep 17 16:22:51 EST 2013

Cleanest way to do it would be to cut away all the copper. If you don't, your going to have mid-point injection problems, initially with long line ADSL2 lines and when the NBN arrives it's not going to play nice with the vectoring.

So your stuck with a monopoly, or not realizing all the benefits of fttb.

Joshua D'Alton <joshua at railgun.com.au> wrote:
>Better TPG monopoly than Telstra. And it won't be a monopoly of
>connectivity, people would still be able to use copper. In other words,
>sounds like a strawman argument.
>
>Not to mention its hardly different to Telstras HFC network.... lol.
>
>Anyway sounds like a great plan to me, TPG/PIPE etc etc have been
>offering
>FTTB to businesses for the past 5 years, I see no reason why they don't
>use
>the fiber they already have in the streets to hook up all the remaining
>buildings (somoene called Damien (is that you Damian?) posted similar
>in
>the comments for the OP link).
>
>
>On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Damian Guppy <the.damo at gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>> This will most likely have the effect of the government going
>"brilliant,
>> private enterprise is stepping up here, we dont need to deploy a
>competing
>> infrastructure" and then thoes half million premises will end up
>stuck with
>> a monopoly controlled by TPG (unless iiNet / Telstra also decide to
>over
>> build into thoes same apartments - if they can)
>>
>> --Damian
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Skeeve Stevens <
>> skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com> wrote:
>>
>>> From: 
>http://delimiter.com.au/2013/09/17/screw-nbn-says-tpg-well-fttb/
>>>
>>> =====
>>>
>>> Screw the NBN, says TPG: We’ll do our own FTTB
>>>
>>> National broadband company TPG has flagged plans to deploy so-called
>>> fibre to the basement infrastructure to some 500,000 apartments in
>major
>>> Australian capital cities, in a move which will compete directly
>with the
>>> new Coalition Government’s plans to conduct similar rollouts under
>the
>>> National Broadband Network scheme.
>>>
>>> Under the incoming Coalition Federal Government’s NBN policy, fibre
>will
>>> typically not be extended all the way to home and business premises.
>>> Instead, the Government is planning to deploy fibre to neighbourhood
>>> ‘nodes’, and then use Telstra’s existing copper cable for the
>remainder of
>>> the distance to premises.
>>>
>>> Communications Minister-elect Malcolm Turnbull has also stated that
>a
>>> Coalition Government would also examine so-called ‘fibre to the
>basement’
>>> schemes, where fibre is extended to a building’s basement or other
>junction
>>> point, and then the building’s existing copper cable is used to
>distribute
>>> broadband to individual apartments or business premises.
>>>
>>> However, in documents associated with its financial results briefing
>>> today, national broadband provider TPG — one of Australia’s largest
>ISPs
>>> and telcos — revealed its own plans to skip the Government’s planned
>>> rollout and leverage its own fibre infrastructure to deploy FTTB.
>>>
>>> Courtesy of its existing PIPE Networks business, TPG has extensive
>fibre
>>> infrastructure in built-up areas of major capital cities throughout
>>> Australia. In its briefing documents, the company said it would be
>>> “leveraging and expanding our existing fibre network” to deploy
>“fibre to
>>> the building” in Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Adelaide and Perth.
>The ISP
>>> has “500k units currently in design”.
>>>
>>> “The Group is planning to increase the number of buildings directly
>>> connected to its fibre network in metro areas,” the company added.
>“With
>>> the evolution of new technologies now enabling speeds of up to
>100Mbps,
>>> this will enable the Group to commence offering very high-speed
>broadband
>>> services to its customers at ADSL2+ prices.”
>>>
>>> TPG noted in its briefing documents that it would be offering up to
>>> 100Mbps packages including “unlimited” downloads and home phone line
>>> rental, as well as a bundled Wi-Fi modem and unlimited local calls
>and
>>> “standard” national calls to landlines, for $69.99 per month.
>>>
>>> Further opportunities may come due to the company’s purchase of a
>small
>>> amount of wireless spectrum in the 2.5GHz band, which will become
>available
>>> from October 2014. TPG noted that the acquisition of the spectrum
>would
>>> give TPG “opportunities to offer innovative, value-adding products”
>to
>>> “further enhance” the company’s product suite. In its documents, TPG
>>> specifically called out the service as having the potential to add
>value
>>> for TPG customers connected to FTTB or NBN offerings. It may be
>possible
>>> for the company to offer wireless services in-building from its
>fibre
>>> termination point.
>>>
>>> Under the previous Labor administration, it is unlikely that TPG
>would
>>> have been allowed to pursue its FTTB plans, given that Labor’s
>policy would
>>> have prohibited private operators from overbuilding the NBN in most
>cases.
>>> However, it is unclear what the Coalition’s view on the situation
>would be.
>>> Turnbull has stated that he believes in infrastructure-based
>competition to
>>> the Coalition’s own NBN infrastructure, meaning it may be possible
>TPG may
>>> be allowed — or even encouraged — to continue with the deployment.
>It’s
>>> also unclear whether TPG would need to open its infrastructure to
>>> competitive wholesale access.
>>>
>>> The news comes as Turnbull has recently highlighted another
>deployment
>>> along similar lines. The rollout, in a housing estate in Sydney, is
>>> already delivering 100Mbps download and 40Mbps upload
>speeds<http://delimiter.com.au/2013/09/03/sydney-mdu-vdsl-rollout-delivers-100mbps/>
>>> .
>>>
>>> *opinion/analysis*
>>> Very, very interesting move from TPG here, and although it obviously
>>> comes as part of the company’s normal financial results briefing, I
>>> strongly suspect it would not have been announced today unless the
>>> Coalition won power in the Federal Election several weeks ago. TPG
>>> obviously smells the chance here to get in first and deploy FTTB in
>>> valuable areas.
>>>
>>> I need to go away and do some research on this one before forming an
>>> opinion. But I’m sure y’all will post some opinions of your own
>below this
>>> article ;)
>>> Written by Renai LeMay <http://delimiter.com.au/author/renai/> on
>>> Tuesday, September 17, 2013 11:54
>>> =====
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ...Skeeve
>>>
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>>>
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