[AusNOG] Screw the NBN, says TPG: We’ll do our own FTTB

Tue Sep 17 13:53:13 EST 2013

That's from the legislation that enables the NBN

On 17 September 2013 10:52, Joshua D'Alton <joshua at railgun.com.au> wrote:

> Where's that from, news to me!
>
> I'm sure TPG wouldn't care anyway, they'd just charge for the tail and get
> their pound of flesh, they'd probably not care that the customer wasn't
> theirs retail at the end of the day.
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Grahame Lynch <
> grahamelynch at commsdaymail.com> wrote:
>
>> There can be no TPG monopoly under the current legislation which mandates
>> all new 25Mbps+ links to be made available for open access (the anti cherry
>> picking rules)
>>
>> I doubt if the Coalition have the Senate numbers to repeal that even if
>> they sought to, currently.
>>
>>
>> On 17 September 2013 10:44, Joshua D'Alton <joshua at railgun.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>> Better TPG monopoly than Telstra. And it won't be a monopoly of
>>> connectivity, people would still be able to use copper. In other words,
>>> sounds like a strawman argument.
>>>
>>> Not to mention its hardly different to Telstras HFC network.... lol.
>>>
>>> Anyway sounds like a great plan to me, TPG/PIPE etc etc have been
>>> offering FTTB to businesses for the past 5 years, I see no reason why they
>>> don't use the fiber they already have in the streets to hook up all the
>>> remaining buildings (somoene called Damien (is that you Damian?) posted
>>> similar in the comments for the OP link).
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Damian Guppy <the.damo at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> This will most likely have the effect of the government going
>>>> "brilliant, private enterprise is stepping up here, we dont need to deploy
>>>> a competing infrastructure" and then thoes half million premises will end
>>>> up stuck with a monopoly controlled by TPG (unless iiNet / Telstra also
>>>> decide to over build into thoes same apartments - if they can)
>>>>
>>>> --Damian
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Skeeve Stevens <
>>>> skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> From:
>>>>> http://delimiter.com.au/2013/09/17/screw-nbn-says-tpg-well-fttb/
>>>>>
>>>>> =====
>>>>>
>>>>> Screw the NBN, says TPG: We’ll do our own FTTB
>>>>>
>>>>> National broadband company TPG has flagged plans to deploy so-called
>>>>> fibre to the basement infrastructure to some 500,000 apartments in major
>>>>> Australian capital cities, in a move which will compete directly with the
>>>>> new Coalition Government’s plans to conduct similar rollouts under the
>>>>> National Broadband Network scheme.
>>>>>
>>>>> Under the incoming Coalition Federal Government’s NBN policy, fibre
>>>>> will typically not be extended all the way to home and business premises.
>>>>> Instead, the Government is planning to deploy fibre to neighbourhood
>>>>> ‘nodes’, and then use Telstra’s existing copper cable for the remainder of
>>>>> the distance to premises.
>>>>>
>>>>> Communications Minister-elect Malcolm Turnbull has also stated that a
>>>>> Coalition Government would also examine so-called ‘fibre to the basement’
>>>>> schemes, where fibre is extended to a building’s basement or other junction
>>>>> point, and then the building’s existing copper cable is used to distribute
>>>>> broadband to individual apartments or business premises.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, in documents associated with its financial results briefing
>>>>> today, national broadband provider TPG — one of Australia’s largest ISPs
>>>>> and telcos — revealed its own plans to skip the Government’s planned
>>>>> rollout and leverage its own fibre infrastructure to deploy FTTB.
>>>>>
>>>>> Courtesy of its existing PIPE Networks business, TPG has extensive
>>>>> fibre infrastructure in built-up areas of major capital cities throughout
>>>>> Australia. In its briefing documents, the company said it would be
>>>>> “leveraging and expanding our existing fibre network” to deploy “fibre to
>>>>> the building” in Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Adelaide and Perth. The ISP
>>>>> has “500k units currently in design”.
>>>>>
>>>>> “The Group is planning to increase the number of buildings directly
>>>>> connected to its fibre network in metro areas,” the company added. “With
>>>>> the evolution of new technologies now enabling speeds of up to 100Mbps,
>>>>> this will enable the Group to commence offering very high-speed broadband
>>>>> services to its customers at ADSL2+ prices.”
>>>>>
>>>>> TPG noted in its briefing documents that it would be offering up to
>>>>> 100Mbps packages including “unlimited” downloads and home phone line
>>>>> rental, as well as a bundled Wi-Fi modem and unlimited local calls and
>>>>> “standard” national calls to landlines, for $69.99 per month.
>>>>>
>>>>> Further opportunities may come due to the company’s purchase of a
>>>>> small amount of wireless spectrum in the 2.5GHz band, which will become
>>>>> available from October 2014. TPG noted that the acquisition of the spectrum
>>>>> would give TPG “opportunities to offer innovative, value-adding products”
>>>>> to “further enhance” the company’s product suite. In its documents, TPG
>>>>> specifically called out the service as having the potential to add value
>>>>> for TPG customers connected to FTTB or NBN offerings. It may be possible
>>>>> for the company to offer wireless services in-building from its fibre
>>>>> termination point.
>>>>>
>>>>> Under the previous Labor administration, it is unlikely that TPG would
>>>>> have been allowed to pursue its FTTB plans, given that Labor’s policy would
>>>>> have prohibited private operators from overbuilding the NBN in most cases.
>>>>> However, it is unclear what the Coalition’s view on the situation would be.
>>>>> Turnbull has stated that he believes in infrastructure-based competition to
>>>>> the Coalition’s own NBN infrastructure, meaning it may be possible TPG may
>>>>> be allowed — or even encouraged — to continue with the deployment. It’s
>>>>> also unclear whether TPG would need to open its infrastructure to
>>>>> competitive wholesale access.
>>>>>
>>>>> The news comes as Turnbull has recently highlighted another deployment
>>>>> along similar lines. The rollout, in a housing estate in Sydney, is
>>>>> already delivering 100Mbps download and 40Mbps upload speeds<http://delimiter.com.au/2013/09/03/sydney-mdu-vdsl-rollout-delivers-100mbps/>
>>>>> .
>>>>>
>>>>> *opinion/analysis*
>>>>> Very, very interesting move from TPG here, and although it obviously
>>>>> comes as part of the company’s normal financial results briefing, I
>>>>> strongly suspect it would not have been announced today unless the
>>>>> Coalition won power in the Federal Election several weeks ago. TPG
>>>>> obviously smells the chance here to get in first and deploy FTTB in
>>>>> valuable areas.
>>>>>
>>>>> I need to go away and do some research on this one before forming an
>>>>> opinion. But I’m sure y’all will post some opinions of your own below this
>>>>> article ;)
>>>>> Written by Renai LeMay <http://delimiter.com.au/author/renai/> on
>>>>> Tuesday, September 17, 2013 11:54
>>>>> =====
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ...Skeeve
>>>>>
>>>>> *Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
>>>>> skeeve at eintellegonetworks.com ; www.eintellegonetworks.com
>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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