[AusNOG] GoodBye NBN

Sun Sep 8 13:35:13 EST 2013

If she doesn't want VoIP then don't get it.
Use the uni-V port on the NBNco box.
Telstra are offering uni-V voice services which will be better in 
quality than the telstra landline for the same or less a price than on 
the old copper.

Uni-V has guaranteed bandwidth (on NBNco's side) so all the problems you 
get running VoIP over the public internet go away.

So as far as your mum is concerned yes there will be a few hours of 
disruption when she gets the fibre connected, and from then on the phone 
won't go all crackly when it rains any more and she will be set for the 
next 60 years or so.

Its all moot now, Turnbull will hook your mum up to a node and honest 
injun won't accidentally cross her wire with her neighbours and we can 
save that $600m total out of pocket difference and spend it on 6 months 
of maintenance for the FTTN system.

(In real numbers, The govt was borrowing $29.5(FTTN) vs $30.5(FTTP) in a 
bond issue at 4%, the interest on that difference over the life of the 
project wound up at $600M, The other $15B for the labour plan was going 
to be from private borrowings, as by that stage the NBN would be a going 
concern and demonstrably able to pay it back)

On 07/09/13 22:33, Paul Wallace wrote:
> Do you really believe that fibre offers a silver bullet, zero 
> down-time, crackle free, drop out free, 100% perfect outcome?
>
> Where on Earth does this preposterous suggestion come from?
>
> The undisputed truth of the matter is that the (copper based) PSTN 
> network in Australia has been super reliable for decades. Personally 
> I'm in my 50's and cannot remember (possibly due to age) the last time 
> my dial tone failed!
>
> By contrast my VoIP service crackles, fails in all manner if ways, 
> never actually rings but sounds liked it's ringing and otherwise 
> offers no competition if the test is going to be based solely on 
> 'availability'.
>
> So could you PLEASE help my old Mum understand why she needs a tradie 
> to attend her home to pull cables, then figure out which VoIP handset 
> to buy, then which RSP to choose, then accept that it has wrinkles 
> that's she's never previously conceived ... just because the ALP 
> continues to assert that it's imperative that we spend billions on 
> getting rid of something my old Mum is 100% happy with!!
>
> HFC is perfectly suitable for script kids to download their stuff and 
> if it only occurs at 40Mbs and not at 41Mb (due to coming to them from 
> the USA ((despite their GigE NBN connection)) then they should just 
> wait the extra few seconds.
>
> These same kids invented 'butt chugging' because they couldn't even 
> stand waiting the few minutes it takes to get drunk outa their minds 
> on a Sat night .. and now they're controlling politics!
>
> All this from a crowd that cannot even BEGIN to focus on the real 
> issues such as solving the problem that ZERO tourists can land via 
> aircraft in Sydney for 17% of every single day of every single week! 
> Instead they're going to spend all of our money on moving the Navy 
> from Garden Island to QLD.
>
> Gimme a break!
>
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> Sent from my iPhone powered by Polyfone Telecom
>
>
> On 07/09/2013, at 9:48 PM, "wingar at team-metro.net 
> <mailto:wingar at team-metro.net>" <wingar at team-metro.net 
> <mailto:wingar at team-metro.net>> wrote:
>
>> It's not just WA that gets it. Anywhere even semi-rural get's it.
>> ~Em
>> *From:* Jacob Bisby
>> *Sent:* ?Saturday?, ?7? ?September? ?2013 ?9?:?46? ?PM
>> *To:* ausnog at lists.ausnog.net <mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
>> Nevermind the internet access, fibre would have solved the primitive
>> land-line phone call quality problems that plague my area and it's
>> surrounds in WA.
>>
>> - Jacob
>>
>> On 7/09/2013 7:39 PM, Tim March wrote:
>> > You won't need to worry about connecting to the NBN if you can't suss
>> > out how to correctly configure your CPE anyway =)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > T.
>> >
>> > On 7/09/13 9:37 PM, Daniel Watson wrote:
>> >> Well its offical
>> >>
>> >> For those of you who are not watching (Not that i am, i glanced over)
>> >>
>> >> Rudd 49,  Abbott 79
>> >>
>> >> I think its time to buy my airline ticket out of here...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> D.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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