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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">If she doesn't want VoIP then don't get
it.<br>
Use the uni-V port on the NBNco box.<br>
Telstra are offering uni-V voice services which will be better in
quality than the telstra landline for the same or less a price
than on the old copper.<br>
<br>
Uni-V has guaranteed bandwidth (on NBNco's side) so all the
problems you get running VoIP over the public internet go away.<br>
<br>
So as far as your mum is concerned yes there will be a few hours
of disruption when she gets the fibre connected, and from then on
the phone won't go all crackly when it rains any more and she will
be set for the next 60 years or so.<br>
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<br>
Its all moot now, Turnbull will hook your mum up to a node and
honest injun won't accidentally cross her wire with her neighbours
and we can save that $600m total out of pocket difference and
spend it on 6 months of maintenance for the FTTN system.<br>
<br>
<br>
(In real numbers, The govt was borrowing $29.5(FTTN) vs
$30.5(FTTP) in a bond issue at 4%, the interest on that difference
over the life of the project wound up at $600M, The other $15B for
the labour plan was going to be from private borrowings, as by
that stage the NBN would be a going concern and demonstrably able
to pay it back)<br>
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On 07/09/13 22:33, Paul Wallace wrote:<br>
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<div>Do you really believe that fibre offers a silver bullet, zero
down-time, crackle free, drop out free, 100% perfect outcome?</div>
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<div>Where on Earth does this preposterous suggestion come from?</div>
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<div>The undisputed truth of the matter is that the (copper based)
PSTN network in Australia has been super reliable for decades.
Personally I'm in my 50's and cannot remember (possibly due to
age) the last time my dial tone failed!</div>
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<div>By contrast my VoIP service crackles, fails in all manner if
ways, never actually rings but sounds liked it's ringing and
otherwise offers no competition if the test is going to be based
solely on 'availability'.</div>
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<div>So could you PLEASE help my old Mum understand why she needs
a tradie to attend her home to pull cables, then figure out
which VoIP handset to buy, then which RSP to choose, then accept
that it has wrinkles that's she's never previously conceived ...
just because the ALP continues to assert that it's imperative
that we spend billions on getting rid of something my old Mum is
100% happy with!!</div>
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<div>HFC is perfectly suitable for script kids to download their
stuff and if it only occurs at 40Mbs and not at 41Mb (due to
coming to them from the USA ((despite their GigE NBN
connection)) then they should just wait the extra few seconds.</div>
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<div>These same kids invented 'butt chugging' because they
couldn't even stand waiting the few minutes it takes to get
drunk outa their minds on a Sat night .. and now they're
controlling politics!</div>
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<div>All this from a crowd that cannot even BEGIN to focus on the
real issues such as solving the problem that ZERO tourists can
land via aircraft in Sydney for 17% of every single day of every
single week! Instead they're going to spend all of our money on
moving the Navy from Garden Island to QLD.</div>
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<div>Gimme a break!</div>
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On 07/09/2013, at 9:48 PM, "<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<div>It’s not just WA that gets it. Anywhere even semi-rural
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Nevermind the internet access, fibre would have solved the
primitive <br>
land-line phone call quality problems that plague my area
and it's <br>
surrounds in WA.<br>
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- Jacob<br>
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On 7/09/2013 7:39 PM, Tim March wrote:<br>
> You won't need to worry about connecting to the NBN if
you can't suss<br>
> out how to correctly configure your CPE anyway =)<br>
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> T.<br>
><br>
> On 7/09/13 9:37 PM, Daniel Watson wrote:<br>
>> Well its offical<br>
>><br>
>> For those of you who are not watching (Not that i
am, i glanced over)<br>
>><br>
>> Rudd 49, Abbott 79<br>
>><br>
>> I think its time to buy my airline ticket out of
here...<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> D.<br>
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