[AusNOG] Transit over Megaport - who?

[Joshua D'Alton]

>
> What I would love to see is people like AAPT, iSeek, M2 and others be able
> to sell more wholesale tails over this fabric.


You know what would be totally revolutionary is MP going and commoditizing
transit as well. They could seek bulk wholesale pricing from the various
providers and include it (at whatever reasonable markup) as part of their
service offering. openpeering.nl / jointtransit.nl style.

Or hell, maybe not because its really not MPs goal in all this (they seem
to be wanting more to be the backbone than the edge), someone could come
along and utilize MP to offer such a service. I know Equinix does it (along
with a few other global DC providers), but a) its stupidly expensive (well
cheap for billion dollar 99.9999% uptime requirement companies), and b) its
only in-house (i guess MP is only inhouse too, but they've reached out to
many non-NEXTDC DC).

I suspect it will be the only way, doing something like this, to finally
overcome the massive price differential we see (in everything from
cross-connects to transit @$199/Mbit), NBN or not.






On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 9:34 PM, Skeeve Stevens <
skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com> wrote:

> Macca,
>
> If you'd come out and said 'I would make sure it wasn't a SPOF and have
> dual or 'other' paths', I don't think anyone would have disagreed with you.
>
> In response to the 'fan boy' comment.  I think appreciating the
> applications of a new approach to doing things isn't being a fanboy.  Yes I
> think what a lot of Bevan does is awesome, but the same goes for James...
> both pioneers in this industry.
>
> As I pointed out, if Vocus did/will do this kind of thing, I think it
> would be excellent - or other parties... there won't be one fabric to rule
> them all... but MP is just a start.
>
> Also, you might have forgotten what it is like to run a network on a small
> budget, and MP makes like a lot easier for some people and opens up a lot
> of products and offerings as well... that is what I really care about here.
>
>
> ...Skeeve
>
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> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 7:22 PM, McDonald Richards <
> McDonald.Richards at vocus.com.au> wrote:
>
>>  Nope. Unaffiliated. Really.
>>
>>  MC-LAG me over a pair of fibres and you'll negate this but you
>> seriously can't let us all sit back and let the fan boys roll without
>> stirring the pot a little.
>>
>>  Macca
>> (still unaffiliated w/ regard to this thread)
>>
>>
>>
>> On 15/10/2013, at 4:02 PM, "Skeeve Stevens" <
>> skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com> wrote:
>>
>>   Hey Macca,
>>
>>  I know you say unaffiliated, but I also know this product of Megaport
>> directly competes with Vocus fibre to a certain degree.
>>
>>  Let's be honest... we're not talking running things over peering
>> here... I really don't see any quality difference running a VLAN over layer
>> 2 Vocus/AAPT/Pipe/others and Megaport...   sounds more like a scare tactic
>> to be honest.  Unless you have insight that you would like to share
>> (honestly, I'd like to know)
>>
>>  If we are talking dark vs. layer 2, then I would agree.... but I am
>> also not suggesting everyone run absolutely everything over one Megaport
>> connection... go dual feeds if you want.. I am sure they'd sell it.  But...
>> I see something interesting here, and I see it as the future of how
>> inter-dc connections will be one - whether it is Megaport, or Vocus or Pipe
>> get in on the game too... I see it as a great idea.
>>
>>
>> ...Skeeve
>>
>>  *Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
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>>
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>> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 3:42 PM, McDonald Richards <
>> McDonald.Richards at vocus.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>>  All my mission critical services on the one physical port and cabling?
>>> I can't wait!
>>>
>>>  Macca
>>> (unaffiliated in this context)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 15/10/2013, at 3:24 PM, "Skeeve Stevens" <
>>> skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>   OK all,
>>>
>>>  The time is arriving for DC-Virtual Cross-Connects to become a useful
>>> part of our ISP lives.
>>>
>>>  Whether it is Megaport, or other fibre providers who choose to
>>> replicate the model, the Megaport one is what we've got at the moment, and
>>> we might as well start using it.
>>>
>>>  I've been having a few discussions with people about buying
>>> connectivity (not just transit) over the Megaport VxC fabric, but I am not
>>> sure if anyone out there has productised the selling of products over the
>>> VxC fabric.
>>>
>>>  I know people like Amazon AWS will now allow you to connect to them
>>> over Megaport with a Direct Connect... and that is great.
>>>
>>>  What I am looking for are some transit providers who are on, or
>>> getting on Megaport, who will sell either Transit or Wholesale services
>>> over the fabric.
>>>
>>>  I was at an event recently, when Jason Ashton said that he was willing
>>> to do BigAir wholesale interconnects over Megaport - and that is an awesome
>>> start.  What I would love to see is people like AAPT, iSeek, M2 and others
>>> be able to sell more wholesale tails over this fabric.
>>>
>>>  Transit should be an easy one. for $200 intrastate between any
>>> connected DC's, with capacity up to the connection of your pipe (10Gb or
>>> 100Gb), I see people selling transit as a no-brainer.
>>>
>>> If you are doing this and want to announce it here, awesome... or if you
>>> don't want to announce yet, but happy to let me know - I will keep it quiet
>>> until you are ready to announce it.
>>>
>>>  Also... other IXs... Pipe, Australia IX, Equinix Peering - have you
>>> thought of connecting to Megaport for the VxC, so people can actually use
>>> the Megaport fabric to get onto your IX as well?
>>>
>>> ...Skeeve
>>>
>>>  *Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
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