[AusNOG] Transit over Megaport - who?
Brent Paddon
brent.paddon at gmail.com
Tue Oct 15 16:31:07 EST 2013
I tend to agree - take 2 ports in two locations, chances of having both
down at the same time are fairly low.
AMSIX are running essentially the same devices, and have done for some time
and presumably if its good enough for them its going to be well more than
good enough for us in OZ.
Brent
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On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Skeeve Stevens <
skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com> wrote:
> Hey Sean,
>
> I understand what Macca is saying... but I don't agree... because tbh, it
> seems to assume that Megaport is some sort of inferior service. It is just
> a fabric like any other... they just happen to sell adhoc access across it.
>
> No single point of failure is a good thing... but I see absolutely NOTHING
> wrong with running essential services over Megaport.
>
> If it is good enough for full Direct Connect into AWS over Megaport, I am
> sure that if you have multiple transit providers and one of them was over
> Megaport... how could anyone see this as an issue?
>
> To address the below... I do not think Megaport (or other similar
> concepts) as a last-effort path. If Vocus, Australia IX, FirstPath, Pipe
> was offering the same service, it should still all be considered to be of a
> high-grade service - no matter what we think of the personalities or
> business competitiveness involved.
>
> But, would I take some whole aggregation over it... like BigAir, or some
> other tail provider... hell yeah. And it was that valueable and worth
> while, I'd get redundant connections.
>
> And IF other business models like this pop-up, then I'd join them as
> well if they had interesting services on them.
>
> ...Skeeve
>
> *Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
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>
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> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Sean K. Finn <sean.finn at ozservers.com.au>wrote:
>
>> In keeping with what Macca has said in mind,****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> If anyone is keen for backup-transit-of-last-resort over Megaport, please
>> contact me off-list.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> If anyone is interested in offering backup-transit-of-last resort, please
>> contact me off-list.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> I’d be keen to have one-way or reciprocal relationships in place over
>> Megaport before a doomsday upstream provider event happens.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> (Think Telstra routing through DODO, or Optus having both paths cut
>> within hours of one another, or other extreme events etc).****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Would I run it as the only path? I’d have rocks in my head to.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Would I run it as yet-another-additional-path? Hell yes!****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Isn’t that the idea of Megaport? ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> (Actually, if anyone wants to do this across QLD-IX, PIPE or Equinix with
>> a bi-lateral agreement please contact me too). ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Sean.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *McDonald
>> Richards
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 15, 2013 2:43 PM
>> *To:* Skeeve Stevens
>> *Cc:* <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Transit over Megaport - who?****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> All my mission critical services on the one physical port and cabling? I
>> can't wait!****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Macca****
>>
>> (unaffiliated in this context)****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>>
>> On 15/10/2013, at 3:24 PM, "Skeeve Stevens" <
>> skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com> wrote:****
>>
>> OK all, ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> The time is arriving for DC-Virtual Cross-Connects to become a useful
>> part of our ISP lives.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Whether it is Megaport, or other fibre providers who choose to replicate
>> the model, the Megaport one is what we've got at the moment, and we might
>> as well start using it.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> I've been having a few discussions with people about buying connectivity
>> (not just transit) over the Megaport VxC fabric, but I am not sure if
>> anyone out there has productised the selling of products over the VxC
>> fabric.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> I know people like Amazon AWS will now allow you to connect to them over
>> Megaport with a Direct Connect... and that is great.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> What I am looking for are some transit providers who are on, or getting
>> on Megaport, who will sell either Transit or Wholesale services over the
>> fabric.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> I was at an event recently, when Jason Ashton said that he was willing to
>> do BigAir wholesale interconnects over Megaport - and that is an awesome
>> start. What I would love to see is people like AAPT, iSeek, M2 and others
>> be able to sell more wholesale tails over this fabric.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Transit should be an easy one. for $200 intrastate between any connected
>> DC's, with capacity up to the connection of your pipe (10Gb or 100Gb), I
>> see people selling transit as a no-brainer.****
>>
>>
>> If you are doing this and want to announce it here, awesome... or if you
>> don't want to announce yet, but happy to let me know - I will keep it quiet
>> until you are ready to announce it.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Also... other IXs... Pipe, Australia IX, Equinix Peering - have you
>> thought of connecting to Megaport for the VxC, so people can actually use
>> the Megaport fabric to get onto your IX as well?
>> ****
>>
>>
>> ...Skeeve****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd****
>>
>> skeeve at eintellegonetworks.com ; www.eintellegonetworks.com ****
>>
>> Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve****
>>
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