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</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Skeeve Stevens <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:skeeve+ausnog@eintellegonetworks.com" target="_blank">skeeve+ausnog@eintellegonetworks.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hey Sean,<div><br></div><div>I understand what Macca is saying... but I don't agree... because tbh, it seems to assume that Megaport is some sort of inferior service. It is just a fabric like any other... they just happen to sell adhoc access across it.</div>
<div><br></div><div>No single point of failure is a good thing... but I see absolutely NOTHING wrong with running essential services over Megaport.</div><div><br></div><div>If it is good enough for full Direct Connect into AWS over Megaport, I am sure that if you have multiple transit providers and one of them was over Megaport... how could anyone see this as an issue?</div>
<div><br></div><div>To address the below... I do not think Megaport (or other similar concepts) as a last-effort path. If Vocus, Australia IX, FirstPath, Pipe was offering the same service, it should still all be considered to be of a high-grade service - no matter what we think of the personalities or business competitiveness involved.</div>
<div><br></div><div>But, would I take some whole aggregation over it... like BigAir, or some other tail provider... hell yeah. And it was that valueable and worth while, I'd get redundant connections.</div><div><br>
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<div>And IF other business models like this pop-up, then I'd join them as well if they had interesting services on them.</div><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="im"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>...Skeeve</div>
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<br><br></div><div><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Sean K. Finn <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sean.finn@ozservers.com.au" target="_blank">sean.finn@ozservers.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">In keeping with what Macca has said in mind,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">If anyone is keen for backup-transit-of-last-resort over Megaport, please contact me off-list.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">If anyone is interested in offering backup-transit-of-last resort, please contact me off-list.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I’d be keen to have one-way or reciprocal relationships in place over Megaport before a doomsday upstream provider event happens.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">(Think Telstra routing through DODO, or Optus having both paths cut within hours of one another, or other extreme events etc).<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Would I run it as the only path? I’d have rocks in my head to.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Would I run it as yet-another-additional-path? Hell yes!<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Isn’t that the idea of Megaport? <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">(Actually, if anyone wants to do this across QLD-IX, PIPE or Equinix with a bi-lateral agreement please contact me too). <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Sean.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> AusNOG [mailto:<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>McDonald Richards<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 15, 2013 2:43 PM<br><b>To:</b> Skeeve Stevens<br><b>Cc:</b> <<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Transit over Megaport - who?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">All my mission critical services on the one physical port and cabling? I can't wait!<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Macca<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">(unaffiliated in this context)<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>On 15/10/2013, at 3:24 PM, "Skeeve Stevens" <<a href="mailto:skeeve+ausnog@eintellegonetworks.com" target="_blank">skeeve+ausnog@eintellegonetworks.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">OK all, <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">The time is arriving for DC-Virtual Cross-Connects to become a useful part of our ISP lives.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Whether it is Megaport, or other fibre providers who choose to replicate the model, the Megaport one is what we've got at the moment, and we might as well start using it.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I've been having a few discussions with people about buying connectivity (not just transit) over the Megaport VxC fabric, but I am not sure if anyone out there has productised the selling of products over the VxC fabric.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I know people like Amazon AWS will now allow you to connect to them over Megaport with a Direct Connect... and that is great.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">What I am looking for are some transit providers who are on, or getting on Megaport, who will sell either Transit or Wholesale services over the fabric.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I was at an event recently, when Jason Ashton said that he was willing to do BigAir wholesale interconnects over Megaport - and that is an awesome start. What I would love to see is people like AAPT, iSeek, M2 and others be able to sell more wholesale tails over this fabric.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Transit should be an easy one. for $200 intrastate between any connected DC's, with capacity up to the connection of your pipe (10Gb or 100Gb), I see people selling transit as a no-brainer.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><br>If you are doing this and want to announce it here, awesome... or if you don't want to announce yet, but happy to let me know - I will keep it quiet until you are ready to announce it.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Also... other IXs... Pipe, Australia IX, Equinix Peering - have you thought of connecting to Megaport for the VxC, so people can actually use the Megaport fabric to get onto your IX as well?<br clear="all">
<u></u><u></u></p><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><br>...Skeeve<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Skeeve Stevens - </span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">eintellego Networks Pty Ltd</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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