[AusNOG] Adaptec Raid - Web Control Panel

[Robert Hudson]

If all a member wants to utilise is the mailing lists, you may have a
point.  And such a person has every right to choose not to be a member.

Of course, if a member chooses to avail themselves of other services
offered (or to contribute positively to a community/industry group and try
to advance the position of their profession), that may well change the
value equation.

If people wish to discuss SAGE-AU more off-list, I'm happy to do so.  I
won't reply further here.


On 30 November 2013 15:46, Noel Butler <noel.butler at ausics.net> wrote:

>  I believe we had this discussion before Robert, within twelve months,
> search your archives for my indepth thoughts.
>
> Basically, charging what you do, for what you offer, is a joke, when the
> same information is freely obtained with 10 seconds to 5 mins of google
> magic, faster than most list responses would ever be as well.
>
> If you want people to join, you need to give them value for money,  and
> frankly, in 2013, there is pretty much nothing you could given to justify
> anywhere near that cost with the various free technical lists, forums,
> usenet, and IRC options, with, being open, permits a far wider range of
> professionals, increasing dramatically the available knowledge.
>
>
>
> On 30/11/2013 10:55, Robert Hudson wrote:
>
> Hi Noel,
>
> I'm sorry you feel that way about SAGE-AU.  I'd be very happy to discuss
> with you what you'd like to see SAGE-AU offering above and beyond the
> existing offerings to make it worth more than the cost of a cup of coffee a
> week.
>
> For what it's worth, yes, we had a substantial drop in membership over the
> 2011/2012 period, but last year we grew again, and we're growing again this
> year.  So I guess we must be pleasing some people. :)
>
> Regards,
>
> Robert Hudson
> President, SAGE-AU
>
>
> On 30 November 2013 11:22, Noel Butler <noel.butler at ausics.net> wrote:
>
>> surely your not suggesting he pays 110 bucks a year (or has it gone up
>> now?) for a next to useless ..... the mailing lists were the only tiny part
>> of it that was worth anything, but paying for access to a mailing list, wow
>> stupidity.
>>
>> plenty of free mailing lists around, and there's even this place called
>> google, or this strange thing thats been around for decades that most kids
>> of today have not clue of called IRC.
>>
>>
>> disclaimer:
>> yes I was a member, it taught me and countless others nothing (hence why
>> membership is drying up in recent years), it only ate away at our wallets,
>> and frankly I'd rather spend that 110 on a good feed of Chinese
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 2013-11-29 at 21:52 +1000, David Hughes wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Perhaps  SAGE-AU would be a more appropriate forum.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>> David
>>
>> …
>>
>>
>>
>> On 29/11/2013, at 9:14 PM, Daniel Watson <daniel at glovine.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>  Gday Noggers,
>>
>>
>>
>>  Apologies, this may seem a little stupid,
>>
>>
>>
>>  I was wondering if anybody can tell me what I'm after and possibly
>> instructions on how to achieve this?
>>
>>
>>
>>  I'm wanting a web panel on a custom port for my server's raid card, its
>> an Adaptec 5405 and 6405 cards
>>
>>
>>
>>  TIA
>>
>>
>>
>>  D.
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