[AusNOG] Pipe/Equinix Peering Costs
Matthew Moyle-Croft
mmc at mmc.com.au
Mon May 6 02:39:33 EST 2013
Google are definitely on Equinix Sydney - a quick look by anyone at their entry on peeringdb would show that.
Not being on an MLPA doesn't mean someone isn't "open", just means they're not on an MLPA.
MMC
On 04/05/2013, at 6:05 PM, Skeeve Stevens <skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com> wrote:
> On the MLPA? or just BL?
>
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> ...Skeeve
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> On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 2:24 AM, Matthew Moyle-Croft <mmc at 1mmc.com> wrote:
> They do.
>
> On 04/05/2013, at 6:44, Skeeve Stevens <skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com> wrote:
>
>> This is an interesting question. Why doesn't Google peer on Equinix IX in Sydney?
>>
>> Google?
>>
>>
>> ...Skeeve
>>
>> Skeeve Stevens - eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
>> skeeve at eintellegonetworks.com ; www.eintellegonetworks.com
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>> On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 6:01 PM, Brad Evans <brad at delion.com.au> wrote:
>> 2 weeks ago we found TPG stopped sending traffic back to our AS via Equinix Exchange and they preferred to send traffic through our PIPE IP Transit connection. Fair enough, they want us to pay PIPE Transit for traffic from TPG rather than give it to us for free.
>>
>> So we withdrew our prefixes from Pipe Transit to do further testing - TPG preferred to go through Optus->Vocus to reach us (we also use Vocus for Transit) rather than direct across Equinix Exchange. So it seems they have no interest in sending traffic back to us over Equinix Exchange any more. Not a very open policy for peering if they are selectively refusing to route traffic to Equinix Exchange participants.
>>
>> One final gripe (unrelated to PIPE/TPG) - Google doesn't openly peer on Equinix Exchange, but they do on PIPE IX.
>>
>> -Brad
>>
>> On 3/05/2013 5:46 PM, Joshua D'Alton wrote:
>>> Less of a problem than all international traffic returning via PPC1, adding a good 60ms to eastbound. And unfortunately the routing policies don't seem to differ between residential and commercial (dsl and fiber), though I don't know of any AU provider that does (maybe AAPT before they sold residential?). What exetel do with traffic is interesting too, it might indeed be as Skeeve suggests, the death of pipe peering...
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 5:06 PM, Brett <bwtricky89 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> You could always do what TPG are current doing and having all PIPE traffic return via Sydney regardless of state it originates from. It's quite lovely with what they come up with..
>>>
>>> 1 vl102.cor2.mel6.on.ii.net (150.101.212.246) 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec
>>> 2 gi2-0-0.bdr1.mel6.on.ii.net (150.101.210.138) 12 msec 12 msec 12 msec
>>> 3 te2-0-0.bdr1.cbr1.on.ii.net (150.101.160.173) 12 msec 12 msec 12 msec
>>> 4 xe-0-0-0.cr1.cbr2.on.ii.net (150.101.33.84) 12 msec 8 msec 8 msec
>>> 5 ae2.br1.syd4.on.ii.net (150.101.33.22) 36 msec 12 msec 12 msec
>>> 6 p7545.syd.equinix.com (202.167.228.79) 12 msec 12 msec 12 msec
>>> 7 nme-nxg-wal-crt2-ge-6-0-0.tpgi.com.au (202.7.162.53) 12 msec 12 msec 12 msec
>>>
>>> 1 gi1-20-102.cor1.adl6.on.ii.net (203.16.215.14) 4 msec 0 msec 0 msec
>>> 2 xe-11-0-0.cr1.adl6.on.ii.net (150.101.225.229) 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec
>>> 3 ae4.br1.syd7.on.ii.net (150.101.33.34) 20 msec 20 msec 20 msec
>>> 4 as7545.sydney.pipenetworks.com (218.100.2.40) 20 msec 20 msec 20 msec
>>> 5 nme-sot-dry-crt2-Gi3-0-0.tpgi.com.au (203.12.162.238) 20 msec 20 msec 20 msec
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3 May 2013 14:03, Luke Iggleden <luke+ausnog at sisgroup.com.au> wrote:
>>> Hey Skeeve + List,
>>>
>>> I'm interested in routing policy for each connected peer. Did anyone provide insight into how they are electing egress paths?
>>>
>>> We local pref equinix due to least cost, however, we seem to have a lot more ingress flows via pipe peering.
>>>
>>> Are operators local preffing pipe peering over equinix or vice versa or are you just letting as-path length decide?
>>>
>>> If you're letting AS-PATH decide what is your tie breaker condition (if you have one?)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> On 29/04/13 9:50 AM, Skeeve Stevens wrote:
>>> Hey guys,
>>>
>>> More pricing has been added/updated... thanks for the info all.
>>>
>>> For those who were getting a 404.. Welcome to the world of IPv6...
>>> whoops.. I was using the wrong IP damnit.
>>>
>>>
>>> ...Skeeve
>>>
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>>> On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 2:14 AM, Skeeve Stevens
>>> <skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com
>>> <mailto:skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey all,
>>>
>>> OK.. after a pile of responses about peering prices, and almost as
>>> many asking for me to share the info I collected... I've put it in
>>> a blog post for all to access.
>>>
>>> If you have any information about peering pricing that you wish to
>>> share with me privately, but don't mind me adding to the post...
>>> then let me know and I will update it.
>>>
>>> http://theispguy.com/peeringpricing/
>>>
>>> Later, I might turn this into a resource that I keep updated. At
>>> the moment working on a project to document all Australian
>>> datacentres/tail providers... but be patient.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ...Skeeve
>>>
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>>> On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 1:32 AM, Skeeve Stevens
>>> <skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com
>>> <mailto:skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey all,
>>>
>>> If possible, I am wanting to find out how much Pipe and Equinix
>>> peering costs at the moment for 100mb and 1Gb links.
>>>
>>> I know there was some price drops a while ago, but not sure what
>>> the current buy price is.
>>>
>>> I could wait till Monday and ask them, but I have to write some
>>> recommendations up over the weekend.
>>>
>>> Please feel free to reply to me off-list.
>>>
>>> ...Skeeve
>>>
>>> *Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
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