[AusNOG] More IP's for sale (/19 and /20's)

[David Hughes]

Could you even class it as an asset as you never actually own the address space?   Perhaps treating it as revenue is a better option.


David
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On 20/03/2013, at 10:47 AM, McDonald Richards <McDonald.Richards at vocus.com.au> wrote:

> Purely out of curiosity how are folks treating the capital gains tax on an
> asset that, in theory, cost $0?
> 
> Macca
> 
> 
> 
> On 20/03/13 11:37 AM, "Joseph Goldman" <joe at apcs.com.au> wrote:
> 
>> Previous sales I have gotten ridiculous offers such as $2-5 per IP,
>> which is where my second comment comes from.
>> 
>> People are more than welcome to bid lower then the perceived market
>> rate, however there is a line of genuine offer and silly bidding. At the
>> end of the day I take the best offer that has been presented to me.
>> 
>> On 20/03/13 11:11 AM, Karl Auer wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2013-03-20 at 09:38 +1000, Noel Butler wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 2013-03-20 at 09:13 +1100, Joseph Goldman wrote:
>>>>>   I have more IP's to sell. Please contact me off-list. /19 and /20's
>>>>> only. MAY be willing to split down to a /21 if you can bring a second
>>>>> buyer with you to take the whole /20.
>>>>> 
>>>>>   Please, only serious bidders only. Please recognise current market
>>>>> rates are $15+ per IP.
>>>> whos market rate?
>>> The "market rate", absent lots and lots of trading where prices for
>>> trades can be seen and thus affect future trades, is whatever someone
>>> will pay for it. I don't thing there is a market in that sense just yet,
>>> but one is certainly building.
>>> 
>>> What's interesting for me in the above quote (and don't get me wrong,
>>> Joseph, I am not having a go at you) is the tone: "I have what you need
>>> and you'll buy on my terms". The terms suggested might have been imposed
>>> on Joseph by the actual seller, or they might be "tough talk" designed
>>> to soften up potential buyers before they even enter negotiations. Or
>>> they might be an indication that previous buyers have been so desperate,
>>> the Joseph now feels he can impose such terms with impunity.
>>> 
>>> I would love to know what Joseph ends up getting for the space :-)
>>> 
>>>> Thats 3 dollars per IP more than the few offers  I've had in recent
>>>> weeks, including since my comment on similar thread late last week
>>>> where
>>> If those are offers, and not prices paid, then it rather suggests that
>>> you are holding out for a higher price, which rather suggests that you
>>> think you might get one :-)
>>> 
>>> All of the above is purest speculation from someone not involved in the
>>> IPv4 address market at all, of course.
>>> 
>>> Regards, K.
>>> 
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