[AusNOG] IPv4

[Mark Smith]

----- Original Message -----
> From: Peter Betyounan <peter at serversaustralia.com.au>
> To: Mark Smith <markzzzsmith at yahoo.com.au>
> Cc: Jared Hirst <jared.hirst at serversaustralia.com.au>; "ausnog at lists.ausnog.net" <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> Sent: Sunday, 3 March 2013 12:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] IPv4
> 
> So basically any new businesses that are 1/4 of that age are
> collateral damage in this mess , great view.
> 

No, they're responsible for their own business success. If they're in a technology industry, and ignore and don't adopt the technological advancements that are critical to their success, they have the ultimate responsible for their own failure.

> There is no force behind change then software providers like Cpanel
> who would hold half the worlds content would move faster on forward
> planning on ipv6. Big providers are at fault as it has been said no
> residential move has been made by the likes of bigpond and Optus so
> take up has been short of nil by market as no substantial end users
> have ipv6.
> 

It's not a good idea to have the success of your business depend on the actions of a single outside provider. If Cpanel are dragging their heels on IPv6 support (and they don't have an excuse for ignoring it either), use your support contracts to get its priority raised, or look for an alternative. If you don't look for an alternative, and you don't demand they satisfy a customer need, then your business will fail in parallel with theirs.

> Laying the blame on small providers is plain wrong.
> 
> Regards
> Peter Betyounan
> www.serversaustralia.com.au
> 
> 
> On 03/03/2013, at 7:06 AM, Mark Smith <markzzzsmith at yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> 
>> 
>>>  ________________________________
>>>  From: Peter Betyounan <peter at serversaustralia.com.au>
>>>  To: Jared Hirst <jared.hirst at serversaustralia.com.au>
>>>  Cc: "ausnog at lists.ausnog.net" <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
>>>  Sent: Saturday, 2 March 2013 7:16 PM
>>>  Subject: Re: [AusNOG] IPv4
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  As I have always thought without forceful intervention by the governing 
> bodies change will not come, financial incentives/penalties will be the key to 
> this and until all big business can feel this change will not come why would it 
> when they can CGNAT / buy more IP's / etc etc . The issue here is small to 
> medium business who do not have the funds to buy more IP's will eventually 
> die automatically monopolizing the market by leaving the big players which sucks 
> for competition..../end rant.
>> 
>>  It won't specifically be IPv6 or running out of IPv4 addresses that 
> will have caused these businesses to fail. What those businesses will have 
> really done is failed to plan ahead. In this instance, they've had 10 to 15 
> years to prepare and plan, and to incorporate the costs of the future upgrade 
> into their current product prices. In most other instances e.g. a new tax, 
> they'll have less than 12 months to prepare for it. A business that 
> can't plan ahead with a 10 to 15 year notification period probably 
> shouldn't deserve to survive, because it also probably doing a lot of other 
> things wrong too, and has such slim margins that it doesn't have any ability 
> to cope with the reasonable yet unexpected cost increases. Would they survive if 
> power prices go up by 20%?
>> 
>>  This sounds harsh, but it is the reality. Businesses that aren't good 
> at being a business fail, and the resources they weren't utilising very well 
> (e.g. people, infrastructure), are absorbed into businesses that are better at 
> being businesses.
>