[AusNOG] IPv4 - Free /48 from APNIC

[Don Gould]

Skeeve I agree and I'm tempted to become an APNIC member just so I can 
push for this.

We all talk about the slow up take of v6 and the slow pace of learning.

I raised issues about BGP one the .nz v6 list a while back.  I still 
don't understand how I'm meant to set stuff up.

It's just a joke that I can get a free /48 tunnel from HE in the US but 
in my own region I have to pay thousands of dollars to get resources, 
and when I do have them it's a mission to be able to announce them.

Perhaps I just know the right handshake?

D

On 3/03/2013 9:02 p.m., Skeeve Stevens wrote:
> I read this when it came out.  While I understand exactly what Jeff is
> saying, I personally don't agree with his approach.
>
> I personally would like to see something else happen.... and I know this
> is far out, but here goes.
>
> I'd like to see individuals to be able to get a /48 themselves... for it
> to be 'theirs' that they can take to ANY ISP they like (or more than
> one) and get announced.  They could keep it for life in theory.
>
> I see that it could be like a cell/mobile number... port it, move it
> around, use it on your cell phone or anything you like... imaging
> wandering into a cell store and saying 'use this /64 please for my handset'.
>
> There is enough /48's to do that for the entire planet, squillions of
> times over.... so why not?  Well, obviously BGP technology would have to
> change just a little bit ;-)  But I am sure it could be done.
>
> THEN, ISPs wouldn't even need that much space themselves if every
> business and individual had their own space for all their own devices ;-)
>
> BOOM! Mind blown.
>
> ...Skeeve
>
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> On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Paul Gear <ausnog at libertysys.com.au
> <mailto:ausnog at libertysys.com.au>> wrote:
>
>     On 03/03/2013 05:30 PM, Skeeve Stevens wrote:
>>     Correct.
>>
>>     A /22 of IPv4 is equal to a /32 IPv6.  So you get up to a /32 of
>>     v6 for no extra fee.
>>
>>     BUT... If you are a business, expect only a /48...  If you are a
>>     Service Provider, you can probably justify a /32.
>>
>>     but seriously... a /48 is a TONNE for a business.  The only reason
>>     you'd want more is if you have multiple networks in geographic
>>     disparate locations with different upstreams.
>>     ...
>
>     Jeff Doyle begged to differ on this a little while back:
>
>     http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/logic-bad-ipv6-address-management
>
>     TL;DR version:
>
>       * Businesses: allocate a /48 for every building, no matter how small.
>       * ISPs: allocate a /48 for every residential customer.
>       * Consistency is much more important than waste management.
>
>     Paul
>
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