[AusNOG] IPv4

Skeeve Stevens skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com
Sun Mar 3 19:23:18 EST 2013


I don't agree.  DNS serves a different function entirely.

...Skeeve

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On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 7:08 PM, Paul Wallace <paul.wallace at mtgi.com.au>wrote:

> That's what DNS is for Skeeve.
>
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>
> On 03/03/2013, at 6:03 PM, "Skeeve Stevens" <
> skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com> wrote:
>
> I read this when it came out.  While I understand exactly what Jeff is
> saying, I personally don't agree with his approach.
>
> I personally would like to see something else happen.... and I know this
> is far out, but here goes.
>
> I'd like to see individuals to be able to get a /48 themselves... for it
> to be 'theirs' that they can take to ANY ISP they like (or more than one)
> and get announced.  They could keep it for life in theory.
>
> I see that it could be like a cell/mobile number... port it, move it
> around, use it on your cell phone or anything you like... imaging wandering
> into a cell store and saying 'use this /64 please for my handset'.
>
> There is enough /48's to do that for the entire planet, squillions of
> times over.... so why not?  Well, obviously BGP technology would have to
> change just a little bit ;-)  But I am sure it could be done.
>
> THEN, ISPs wouldn't even need that much space themselves if every business
> and individual had their own space for all their own devices ;-)
>
> BOOM! Mind blown.
>
> ...Skeeve
>
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> On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Paul Gear <ausnog at libertysys.com.au>wrote:
>
>>  On 03/03/2013 05:30 PM, Skeeve Stevens wrote:
>>
>> Correct.
>>
>>  A /22 of IPv4 is equal to a /32 IPv6.  So you get up to a /32 of v6 for
>> no extra fee.
>>
>>  BUT... If you are a business, expect only a /48...  If you are a
>> Service Provider, you can probably justify a /32.
>>
>>  but seriously... a /48 is a TONNE for a business.  The only reason
>> you'd want more is if you have multiple networks in geographic  disparate
>> locations with different upstreams.
>> ...
>>
>>
>> Jeff Doyle begged to differ on this a little while back:
>>
>>
>> http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/logic-bad-ipv6-address-management
>>
>> TL;DR version:
>>
>>    - Businesses: allocate a /48 for every building, no matter how small.
>>    - ISPs: allocate a /48 for every residential customer.
>>     - Consistency is much more important than waste management.
>>
>> Paul
>>
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