[AusNOG] Simon Hackett's presentation from Comms Day yesterday - NBN fibre on copper prices

[Joshua D'Alton]

Maybe we should give them all a caduceus-signal, we might not be Gotham
City, but....

Nah seriously the reliability of copper vs nbn/wifi/mobiles aside, such
situations where coverage might be shaky can be solved in numerous ways,
including just having a satphone instead of a normal phone. Other options
include cell-extenders (either provided by Telstra or
commercial/residential solutions), microwave PtP, UHF radio, obviously
these cost more than a base solution, but it would seem to me a lot cheaper
to just handle the few tens of thousands exceptions differently than
upgrading the WHOLE network to support emergency reliability. And the
government might consider not lumping that on Telstra/NBNs shoulders as
they have done with the copper network, and have really only done because
it wasn't really a burden on Telstra. Anyway.


On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 1:53 PM, James Hodgkinson <yaleman at ricetek.net>wrote:

> I want to know who's going to provide the service for medical emergency
> customer connections? Currently there's a provision for this, and Telstra's
> been known to fly a chopper to houses outside metro areas with a sat-phone
> to provide temporary service if the outage is going to last more than an
> hour... and don't say mobile phones are the answer, because we all know at
> least one person who doesn't have coverage unless they're standing on a
> balcony ....
>
> James
>
>
> On 20 July 2013 10:17, Mark ZZZ Smith <markzzzsmith at yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: Troy Cowin <troy at perthsystems.com.au>
>> > To: "ausnog at lists.ausnog.net" <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
>> > Cc:
>> > Sent: Saturday, 20 July 2013 9:55 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Simon Hackett's presentation from Comms Day
>> yesterday
>>  - NBN fibre on copper prices
>> >
>> > How does Telstra handle this now in Velocity estates - AKA Telstra's
>> version
>> > of FTTP, I don't have copper my house only fibre. Was given the option
>> of
>> > battery backup, but was quoted approx $150 to add the battery, which at
>> the time
>> > of building my new home was too much.
>> >
>> > Another point to note is I would assume just like any UPS units these
>> batteries
>> > would need to be tested periodically and replaced every X years too?
>> >
>> > Having had a "grandma myrtle" living at home by herself with a
>> > personal alarm that was tied onto her phone line, I would have some real
>> > concerns over using an ATA for that. What happens when the ATA crashes
>> or dies
>> > completely? Or the power goes off.
>> >
>>
>> Going by what my Father and his cohorts were and are capable of (he was
>> 80 when he passed away last year), they're generally quite comfortable with
>> mobile phones.
>>
>> Going by what my Grandmother was capable of (and she passed away at 95
>> earlier this year), "grandma myrtle" is likely to already be living in 24x7
>> care, or be living with people who can provide enough care for her that a
>> mobile phone similar to the following is always charged and always working:
>>
>> http://www.ezfmobile.com.au/
>>
>>
>> I think the proportion of the population who are reliant on a fixed line
>> phone and who refuse to or are unable to learn to use a mobile phone is
>> rapidly dwindling. Maintaining a PSTN compatible connection for every home
>> seems to me to be quite a waste of money.
>>
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of
>> Mark Delany
>> > Sent: Friday, 19 July 2013 11:47 PM
>> > To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
>> > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Simon Hackett's presentation from Comms Day
>> yesterday
>> > - NBN fibre on copper prices
>> >
>> >>  Didn't know that, wonder how that'll all translate over with the
>> > NBN though.
>> >
>> > More interestingly. How does that (Telstra's CSG mobile substitute for
>> > copper) work for folk who need 24x7 safety monitors and the like?
>> >
>> > All the hand-wringing over PSTN resilency to failures and here we have
>> > presumably thousands of residents around the country connected solely
>> via a
>> > mobile service anyway.
>> >
>> > Do Telstra roll out PSTN for those customers that need health monitors
>> or do
>> > they recommend that the customer move?
>> >
>> > As I understand it, these are not just a few rare folk in far flung
>> corners of
>> > the country, they are often in new suburbs that haven't rolled copper
>> > infrastructure.
>> >
>> >
>> > Mark.
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