<div dir="ltr">Maybe we should give them all a caduceus-signal, we might not be Gotham City, but....<div><br></div><div>Nah seriously the reliability of copper vs nbn/wifi/mobiles aside, such situations where coverage might be shaky can be solved in numerous ways, including just having a satphone instead of a normal phone. Other options include cell-extenders (either provided by Telstra or commercial/residential solutions), microwave PtP, UHF radio, obviously these cost more than a base solution, but it would seem to me a lot cheaper to just handle the few tens of thousands exceptions differently than upgrading the WHOLE network to support emergency reliability. And the government might consider not lumping that on Telstra/NBNs shoulders as they have done with the copper network, and have really only done because it wasn't really a burden on Telstra. Anyway.</div>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 1:53 PM, James Hodgkinson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:yaleman@ricetek.net" target="_blank">yaleman@ricetek.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I want to know who's going to provide the service for medical emergency customer connections? Currently there's a provision for this, and Telstra's been known to fly a chopper to houses outside metro areas with a sat-phone to provide temporary service if the outage is going to last more than an hour... and don't say mobile phones are the answer, because we all know at least one person who doesn't have coverage unless they're standing on a balcony ....<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div>
<br></div><div>James</div></font></span></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 20 July 2013 10:17, Mark ZZZ Smith <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:markzzzsmith@yahoo.com.au" target="_blank">markzzzsmith@yahoo.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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----- Original Message -----<br>
> From: Troy Cowin <<a href="mailto:troy@perthsystems.com.au" target="_blank">troy@perthsystems.com.au</a>><br>
> To: "<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>><br>
> Cc:<br>
> Sent: Saturday, 20 July 2013 9:55 AM<br>
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Simon Hackett's presentation from Comms Day yesterday<br>
- NBN fibre on copper prices<br>
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</div><div>> How does Telstra handle this now in Velocity estates - AKA Telstra's version<br>
> of FTTP, I don't have copper my house only fibre. Was given the option of<br>
> battery backup, but was quoted approx $150 to add the battery, which at the time<br>
> of building my new home was too much.<br>
><br>
> Another point to note is I would assume just like any UPS units these batteries<br>
> would need to be tested periodically and replaced every X years too?<br>
><br>
> Having had a "grandma myrtle" living at home by herself with a<br>
> personal alarm that was tied onto her phone line, I would have some real<br>
> concerns over using an ATA for that. What happens when the ATA crashes or dies<br>
> completely? Or the power goes off.<br>
> <br>
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</div>Going by what my Father and his cohorts were and are capable of (he was 80 when he passed away last year), they're generally quite comfortable with mobile phones.<br>
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Going by what my Grandmother was capable of (and she passed away at 95 earlier this year), "grandma myrtle" is likely to already be living in 24x7 care, or be living with people who can provide enough care for her that a mobile phone similar to the following is always charged and always working:<br>
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<a href="http://www.ezfmobile.com.au/" target="_blank">http://www.ezfmobile.com.au/</a><br>
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I think the proportion of the population who are reliant on a fixed line phone and who refuse to or are unable to learn to use a mobile phone is rapidly dwindling. Maintaining a PSTN compatible connection for every home seems to me to be quite a waste of money.<br>
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> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: AusNOG [mailto:<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] On Behalf Of Mark Delany<br>
> Sent: Friday, 19 July 2013 11:47 PM<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Simon Hackett's presentation from Comms Day yesterday<br>
> - NBN fibre on copper prices<br>
><br>
>> Didn't know that, wonder how that'll all translate over with the<br>
> NBN though.<br>
><br>
> More interestingly. How does that (Telstra's CSG mobile substitute for<br>
> copper) work for folk who need 24x7 safety monitors and the like?<br>
><br>
> All the hand-wringing over PSTN resilency to failures and here we have<br>
> presumably thousands of residents around the country connected solely via a<br>
> mobile service anyway.<br>
><br>
> Do Telstra roll out PSTN for those customers that need health monitors or do<br>
> they recommend that the customer move?<br>
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> As I understand it, these are not just a few rare folk in far flung corners of<br>
> the country, they are often in new suburbs that haven't rolled copper<br>
> infrastructure.<br>
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> Mark.<br>
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