[AusNOG] Simon Hackett's presentation from Comms Day yesterday - NBN fibre on copper prices

[Joseph Goldman]

I thought the same, as someone who currently has 2 NBN RSP's on my NTD 
it is a good fit and quite easy. My preferred routers are also only 
ethernet so I'd be locked in to a more limited range of routers that can 
terminate GPON, or have a deal like I had to do when DSL was my only 
connection, which is a small single port device to interface with the 
network (e.g. ADSL Modem) that bridges through to my ethernet router to 
do the real grunt (NAT/Firewall etc).

But on the flip side it is very common for a house to only have a single 
copper line in, and those rare people who require multiple connections 
pay for the benefit of doing so through adding a second line, which can 
run up to $299 at Telstra build-out cost I believe. So given that most 
dwellings would only need a single provider at any one time, I would say 
those who are in the specific need for multiple connections would have 
to pay for a second 'line' like any other customer in current networks. 
The cost benefit Simon talks about for the majority of households would 
far outweigh the extra work required for the small minority that would 
request such a setup.

/2c

On 18/07/13 11:28, Andrew Jones wrote:
> Good presentation, and while my first reaction was to agree with 
> Simon, the issue I see with this is that unless each dwelling is able 
> to have multiple strands of fibre delivered, the first RSP to sell a 
> service has a monopoly on the residence's connections. With the 
> current NBN design, a second (or third) RSP can use another of the 
> ports. On the current system with services delivered primarily over 
> phone lines, we can have second provider on a separate line. I think 
> that only offering a single GPON handoff to each premises could reduce 
> competition and increase provider lock-in.
>
>
> On 18.07.2013 11:15, Greg McLennan wrote:
>> +1 Watch the 20 video.
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>>  On 18/07/2013 11:12 AM, Michael Andreas Schipp wrote:
>>
>>> Recommend you spend the 20 min to listen - good stuff.
>>>
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>>> yesterday - NBN fibre on copper prices
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>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> If you haven't already seen it, here's a link to Simon's thought
>>>
>>> provoking and challenging presentation at Comms Day. Is NBNCo doing it
>>>
>>> too hard, too complex and too expensive?
>>>
>>> http://simonhackett.com/2013/07/17/nbn-fibre-on-a-copper-budget/ [1]
>>>
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