[AusNOG] Assistance in picking a router

Thu Jul 18 09:52:32 EST 2013

It's a late reply, but don't discount the idea of using an L3 switch in place of a router, we have used 3750's and 6513's to provide a 1gb connection to the world with BGP and OSPF running on them happily (on the 3750 it was just the filtered default route for BGP but I think that's all you would need).

We currently use a 4500-X as our primary net device and it collects a full BGP v4 and v6 route table with no problems at all and its capable of 10gb/s on all its interfaces.

Cisco (and I'm sure the others) sell numerous really good L3 switches for ok prices, their routers tend to be cheaper but the switches are generally better performing in PPS and closer to line rate than the routers at the lower price points.

Thanks,
Ayden Beeson

From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Daniel Watson
Sent: Wednesday, 17 July 2013 11:12 PM
To: Jared Hirst
Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Assistance in picking a router

Hi Jared

I am going on what ive been told

Thank you for discussing it, and having Nathan take time out of his busy evening to investigate this further,

This thread was designed to find more information about routers. Not about the issues im having. But sort of stemed more onto that then it should of

Awaiting further updates from SAU staff about my issues

Regards

Daniel

Sent from my iPhone

On 17/07/2013, at 23:06, "Jared Hirst" <jared.hirst at serversaustralia.com.au<mailto:jared.hirst at serversaustralia.com.au>> wrote:
Daniel,

It is configured fine, you wanted to hide us from your path and we suggested a vyatta virtual router as you did not want us to route your ips nor did you want to invest $10,000 in a decent router.

The degraded traffic only appears when you are under high packets per second ddos. I advised earlier about this. There is no Mis configuration, we are going to try and stop the attacks from bringing your network offline.

If you were being advertised by us then out routers would not have this issue, as many have suggested when you have a single upstream this is the best way to go about having a stable and redundant network setup, as we have dual routers and very powerful routers that can handle high PPS.

Just for the lists sake, we have done and will continue to do everything we can as the provider for this AS!

I made one suggestion to maybe look into a hardware router to cope with Mis fragmented packets and high PPS and now I am being dragged into something that I shouldn't be.

Daniel I suggest you talk to us rather than this list and rather than bring me into a public forum and make possibly incorrect accusations.

Regards,

Jared

On Wednesday, 17 July 2013, Daniel Watson wrote:
Gday James

We want to be white labled and hidden from SAU. Thus the router idea

Jared suggested virtual Vyatta as it works fine

Clearly not. As now they have said its not configured correctly...

Just some insight for you

Daniel

Sent from my iPhone

On 17/07/2013, at 22:35, "James Braunegg" <james.braunegg at micron21.com<javascript:_e(%7b%7d,%20'cvml',%20'james.braunegg at micron21.com');>> wrote:
Dear Daniel

If you only have one upstream provider, I would question if you even need to run your own router... why not let your upstream provider advertise your IP ranges for you, let them do BGP which will allow you to do just switching downstream.

Because it sounds like your only taking a default route the other option is maybe not even looking at a router. Instead  I'd look at a nice layer 3 switch with BGP which will outperform most low end software routers from a packet per second point of view.

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