[AusNOG] Assistance in picking a router

Wed Jul 17 22:26:18 EST 2013

Daniel,

I'd be asking some hard questions of your provider - if they're managing
it, then they should have a responsibility for telling you what's going on
if performance goes downhill as you're saying. If you're looking to upgrade
but keep them in a controlling position over the hardware they'll surely
have a list of what they'll support which will depend on the vendor... if
you're looking to take over management, what skills does the organisation
have?

I'm not sure what hardware you're running vyatta on, but I'm fairly sure my
cellphone could do a good job of routing 30mbit of traffic...

Just my $0.02

James

On 17 July 2013 22:20, Daniel Watson <daniel at glovine.com.au> wrote:

> Gday Tim
>
> Thing here is. Our provider controls our router. Being Vyetta, we dont
> have access
>
> The only thing we have access too. Is the gear behind that, switches and
> servers ect ect
>
> All great advise thus far
>
> Ive been told we have a regular default BGP routing table aswell. So i
> hope that helps
>
> Daniel
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 17/07/2013, at 22:09, "Tim March" <march.tim at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > I'm sure you'll get a load of great advice on buying a new routing
> platform. Skeeve will tell you to buy a Juniper. I'll tell you to buy a
> Cisco. Chairman Mao will tell you to buy a Huawei. They'll all do what you
> need them to better than whatever virtual appliance you're probably running
> now.
> >
> > The network issues you're describing could be symptomatic of a whole
> range of fairly disparate causes. The best thing you can do is get someone
> who knows what they're doing to sit down in front of your network, do some
> analysis and produce a plan to improve it. Assuming you just need to buy
> $RandomPieceOfHardwareSomeDudeOnAMailingListSuggested and your problems
> will go away is flipping a coin.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > T.
> >
> > On 17/07/13 10:00 PM, Joshua D'Alton wrote:
> >> Skeeve will be the man to answer this question, and maybe even the man
> >> to supply you with the juniper (to do it (unless you want to go ebay
> cisco).
> >>
> >> As an aside, NDA permitting, surely this isn't for Glovine?
> >>
> >> Reading your last reply, some SRX is what you'll want I think.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Skeeve Stevens
> >> <skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com
> >> <mailto:skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>    Do you have more than one upstream?
> >>
> >>    Also.. can you confirm the size of the link and that you will need
> >>    2Gb/s throughput.
> >>
> >>
> >>    ...Skeeve
> >>
> >>    *Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
> >>    skeeve at eintellegonetworks.com
> >>    <mailto:skeeve at eintellegonetworks.com> ; www.eintellegonetworks.com
> >>    <http://www.eintellegonetworks.com/>
> >>
> >>    Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383
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> >>
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> >>    <http://facebook.com/eintellegonetworks> ;
> >>    <http://twitter.com/networkceoau>linkedin.com/in/skeeve
> >>    <http://linkedin.com/in/skeeve>
> >>
> >>    twitter.com/networkceoau <http://twitter.com/networkceoau> ; blog:
> >>    www.network-ceo.net <http://www.network-ceo.net/>
> >>
> >>
> >>    The Experts Who The Experts Call
> >>
> >>    Juniper - Cisco - Cloud
> >>
> >>
> >>    On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Daniel Watson
> >>    <daniel at glovine.com.au <mailto:daniel at glovine.com.au>> wrote:
> >>
> >>        Gday Tony
> >>
> >>        Speed would only need to be a max of 2gbit realistically..
> >>
> >>        As for the BGP table. Id have to come back on that one..
> >>
> >>        No firewall or NAT needed.  Just a basic router
> >>
> >>        Sorry i cant be of more infomation. Im a bit unsure myself :S
> >>
> >>        I know our provider passes through a BGP session currently. And
> >>        the virtual router handles our ASN and IP prefixes
> >>
> >>
> >>        Regards
> >>
> >>        D.
> >>
> >>        Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>        On 17/07/2013, at 21:39, "Tony" <td_miles at yahoo.com
> >>        <mailto:td_miles at yahoo.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>>        Hi Daniel,
> >>>
> >>>        You probably need to supply a little bit more information, the
> >>>        most important being what speed is your connection and are you
> >>>        taking a full BGP table (and if you are, do you really need
> >>>        to) ? Do you want the router to do anything else (NAT,
> >>>        firewall, make you a cup of coffee, etc ?). Any preference for
> >>>        vendor ?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>        regards,
> >>>        Tony.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
>  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>            *From:* Daniel Watson <daniel at glovine.com.au
> >>>            <mailto:daniel at glovine.com.au>>
> >>>            *To:* "ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> >>>            <mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>" <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> >>>            <mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>>
> >>>            *Sent:* Wednesday, 17 July 2013 9:34 PM
> >>>            *Subject:* [AusNOG] Assistance in picking a router
> >>>
> >>>             Gday Noggers
> >>>
> >>>            I need some assistance from the community in looking at
> >>>            routers
> >>>
> >>>            We only need a basic router
> >>>
> >>>            Our provider provides us with a BGP session from their
> >>>            core to our virtual router at present,  But our virtual
> >>>            router is not coping very well
> >>>
> >>>            Can the community please have an open discussion with me,
> >>>            as to what i should be looking at  in the way of routers?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>            Regards
> >>>
> >>>            D.
> >>>
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