[AusNOG] Mike Quigley has resigned

[Paul Wallace]

A few corrections to your post:


1.    Gb microwave has been shipping commercially around the world for over a decade now.

2.    These days 2Gbs is similarly available commercially.

3.    The Carrier that owns the greatest volume of 2.5GHz spectrum in the USA is a larger kinda Carrier called ClearWire

a.    ClearWire sells 4G access (that would be broadband wouldn't it?) via dongles in quite a few of the large cities in the USA

b.    ClearWire has deployed in excess of 1,200 of these Gb microwave trunks into the 5 boroughs of NYC ALONE!

c.    And they have deployed very little fibre to be precise.

d.    It's all been so successful they're just about to embark on upgrading these rings to 2Gbs

4.    The endless running down of microwave also needs to stop; consider the following:

a.    Microwave has been good to Australia actually ... the CSIRO has collected tens of millions of dollars in punitive patent royalties via its wifi patents over the last few years.

b.    So ...

c.    Australia's own CSIRO is working on a not dissimilar multi-Gb platform.

d.    NICTA (the Australian scientific body) is working on it's own version of Gb WiFi



"10Gb over a metre" is irrelevant ... what IS relevant is that researchers at the Fraunhofer Institute for Applied Solid State Physics and the Karlsruhe Institute for Technology have demonstrated a wireless transmission of 40Gb/s at 240GHz over a distance of 1km.


The point is this ...

Fibre & Microwave are excellent bed fellows. The competitive comparisons need to stop. The endless debate that forces them to compete is foolish & should not be continued. It was shamefully politically engendered by Stephen Conroy & is just wrong. They should not be compared, instead thought about in terms of providing protected paths via path & media diversity. That's fundamentally a big subject for those organisations thinking about moving to the 'cloud'.

They also fill different roles as well all know so let's end the comparisons between them today please.

It's also demonstrates the absurdity of Politicians taking sides when it comes to technology choices.

They need to be setting the framework legislation but not participating as a player.

-P











From: Robert Hudson [mailto:hudrob at gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 3:42 PM
To: Paul Wallace
Cc: Mitch Kelly; ausnog at lists.ausnog.net; Narelle
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Mike Quigley has resigned

On 12 July 2013 15:40, Paul Wallace <paul.wallace at mtgi.com.au<mailto:paul.wallace at mtgi.com.au>> wrote:
Actually .. some Germans demonstrated 40Gbps over 'the air' over around 1km last  month!

For how many endpoints, under what conditions?

Someone demonstrated speeds over 1Gbps over wireless in the Arizone desert too.  Between two endpoints, with no other interference.

And 10Gbps plus was achieved over distances of around a meter if memory serves.

That doesn't make any of these things useful or relevant in any sort of discussion regarding broadband in Australia.
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