[AusNOG] German over 'the air' tests, was Re: Mike Quigley has resigned

Guy Ellis guy at traverse.com.au
Fri Jul 12 16:42:38 EST 2013


There's a great image of this test here...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hindenburg_burning.jpg

On 12/07/2013 3:40 PM, Paul Wallace wrote:
> Actually .. some Germans demonstrated 40Gbps over 'the air' over 
> around 1km last  month!
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> On 12/07/2013, at 3:32 PM, "Mitch Kelly" <mitchkelly24 at gmail.com 
> <mailto:mitchkelly24 at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>> Resigned and retired are not the same thing....
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>> On 12/07/2013 1:21 PM, "Narelle" <narellec at gmail.com 
>> <mailto:narellec at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>>     On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Robert Hudson <hudrob at gmail.com
>>     <mailto:hudrob at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>>         On 12 July 2013 14:51, Mark ZZZ Smith
>>         <markzzzsmith at yahoo.com.au
>>         <mailto:markzzzsmith at yahoo.com.au>> wrote:
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>>             I don't think it is a good idea to spend lots of time and
>>             money on possibly maybes.
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>>     It's should be a TCO argument: building something with more
>>     forethought means you can avoid costs that you will incur later
>>     on in the life of the asset.
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>>     With IPv4 vs IPv6 we need to get more scale deployment in order
>>     to reduce the overall costs we will all incur later. It's all a
>>     question of how probable the possibilities are and balancing the
>>     risk against the cost, taking into account all the various affects...
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>>             The majority of what we do on networks are electronic
>>             analogues of what we do "IRL" - the names of the
>>             applications are a give away e.g., eMAIL, video
>>             CONFERENCING etc. The majority of human communications is
>>             unicast or bidirectional, which is why unicast style
>>             applications are the dominant ones. The entertainment
>>             industry might be glamorous, but it pales compared to the
>>             revenue of the telecommunications industry. 
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>>         The way we consume media is evolving, and the entertainment
>>         industry will eventually be dragged, kicking, screaming,
>>         biting and spitting, along with us.
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>>         Despite what some people think, there isn't sufficient
>>         bandwidth in the air to support the continued growth of media
>>         consumption, particularly on demand - that's where things
>>         like the NBN with its existing and potential bandwidth
>>         potentials actually matter for the future.
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>>     While I am again one of the biggest fans of multicast, the fact
>>     is that it is complex, and it was conceived with broadcast
>>     equivalence largely in mind: what we have today are lots of
>>     pockets of users watching niche content, rather than large scale
>>     consumption. Except, perhaps, for the cricket when 19yos save the
>>     day for struggling nations. I'm sure there's a tool out there for
>>     traffic modelling that we all need which would magically
>>     calculate when to swap from a unicast to a multicast model by IP
>>     address/domain!
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>>     Cheers
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>>     N
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>>     -- 
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>>     Narelle
>>     narellec at gmail.com <mailto:narellec at gmail.com>
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