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      On 12/07/2013 3:40 PM, Paul Wallace wrote:<br>
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      <div>Actually .. some Germans demonstrated 40Gbps over 'the air'
        over around 1km last  month!</div>
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        On 12/07/2013, at 3:32 PM, "Mitch Kelly" <<a
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          <p dir="ltr">Resigned and retired are not the same thing....</p>
          <div class="gmail_quote">On 12/07/2013 1:21 PM, "Narelle" <<a
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                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 3:01
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                      <div>On 12 July 2013 14:51, Mark ZZZ Smith <span
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                            <div>I don't think it is a good idea to
                              spend lots of time and money on possibly
                              maybes. </div>
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                    <div>It's should be a TCO argument: building
                      something with more forethought means you can
                      avoid costs that you will incur later on in the
                      life of the asset.<br>
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                    <div>With IPv4 vs IPv6 we need to get more scale
                      deployment in order to reduce the overall costs we
                      will all incur later. It's all a question of how
                      probable the possibilities are and balancing the
                      risk against the cost, taking into account all the
                      various affects...<br>
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                            The majority of what we do on networks are
                            electronic analogues of what we do "IRL" -
                            the names of the applications are a give
                            away e.g., eMAIL, video CONFERENCING etc.
                            The majority of human communications is
                            unicast or bidirectional, which is why
                            unicast style applications are the dominant
                            ones. The entertainment industry might be
                            glamorous, but it pales compared to the
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                        <div>The way we consume media is evolving, and
                          the entertainment industry will eventually be
                          dragged, kicking, screaming, biting and
                          spitting, along with us.</div>
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                        <div>Despite what some people think, there isn't
                          sufficient bandwidth in the air to support the
                          continued growth of media consumption,
                          particularly on demand - that's where things
                          like the NBN with its existing and potential
                          bandwidth potentials actually matter for the
                          future.</div>
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                    <div>While I am again one of the biggest fans of
                      multicast, the fact is that it is complex, and it
                      was conceived with broadcast equivalence largely
                      in mind: what we have today are lots of pockets of
                      users watching niche content, rather than large
                      scale consumption. Except, perhaps, for the
                      cricket when 19yos save the day for struggling
                      nations. I'm sure there's a tool out there for
                      traffic modelling that we all need which would
                      magically calculate when to swap from a unicast to
                      a multicast model by IP address/domain!<br>
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                    <div>Cheers<br>
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                  Narelle<br>
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