[AusNOG] Mike Quigley has resigned

[Mark ZZZ Smith]

----- Original Message -----
> From: Joseph Goldman <joe at apcs.com.au>
> To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
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> Sent: Friday, 12 July 2013 2:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Mike Quigley has resigned
> 
> I found myself wondering the same thing this morning, when the 
> discussion was first brought up. The instant thought was a replacement 
> for broadcast TV, but the trend is (rightly so) moving towards VOD.
> 
>   Live news channels and sports events are about all I can see remaining 
> multicast, in a video manner, but I'm sure there are other applications 
> we (or just I) haven't thought of.
> 

I don't think it is a good idea to spend lots of time and money on possibly maybes. 

The majority of what we do on networks are electronic analogues of what we do "IRL" - the names of the applications are a give away e.g., eMAIL, video CONFERENCING etc. The majority of human communications is unicast or bidirectional, which is why unicast style applications are the dominant ones. The entertainment industry might be glamorous, but it pales compared to the revenue of the telecommunications industry. 


> On 12/07/13 14:35, Mark ZZZ Smith wrote:
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>>>  ________________________________
>>>  From: Narelle <narellec at gmail.com>
>>>  To: Christopher Lenton <clenton at gmail.com>
>>>  Cc: "ausnog at lists.ausnog.net" <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
>>>  Sent: Friday, 12 July 2013 12:18 PM
>>>  Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Mike Quigley has resigned
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>>> 
>>>  *cough* multicast *cough*
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  No comment.
>>> 
>>> 
>>  I think the application of "NBN scale" multicast is -
>> 
>>  - large scale, where unicast replication isn't practical or cost 
> effective
>>  - where "liveness" of the received data is critical to the 
> application
>> 
>>  I don't think many applications exist that have those requirements. 
> People might see multicast as a replacement for broadcasted TV, but in reality, 
> most people would prefer not to have to schedule their life around when the 
> content is broadcast, hence VHS, PVRs and VOD. What events require liveness? 
> "As it happens" news perhaps. Sports? Not so much, perhaps unless 
> you're betting on the outcome. As long as you don't get told the score, 
> does it matter whether you're watching the sports event "now" or 5 
> minutes, 10 minutes or even 30 minutes after it actually happened? Unicasting 
> would give the audience a better experience because viewing the content fits 
> into when they want to consume it. (Wouldn't life be great if we didn't 
> have to make appointments to see the dentist, doctor, or the latest episode of 
> XYZ TV show?)
>> 
>>  There might be events where liveness is a legal requirement, and there is a 
> large audience, but I think if they exist, they're rare (shareholder 
> meetings perhaps?).
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>>  On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Christopher Lenton 
> <clenton at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  @Robert I was about to post that too. Then I presupposed he was talking 
> about the website nbnco.com.au.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>  On 12 July 2013 12:09, Robert Hudson <hudrob at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>  On 12 July 2013 12:02, <lloyd.wood at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>  I've always liked how www.nbnco.com.au doesn't support 
> IPv6.
>>>>>>  Start as you mean to go on...
>>>>> 
>>>>>  The NBN is protocol agnostic.  It's up to the RSPs to offer 
> IPv6 services over it if they wish to do so.
>>>>> 
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