[AusNOG] Cisco 7200 routers for sale

Mon Feb 11 14:31:02 EST 2013

I've not used the Mikrotiks much directly myself, mostly because when I was
first introduced to the products in a few environments, I'd seen a lot of
crashes, CPU usage/DNS issues etc which led me to figure they were in the
ballpark Steve has mentioned. OTOH uptime etc for some of devices have been
rock solid.

In any event I raised my eyebrows when I saw quite a few of them in a DC
visit recently which left me wondering:

1.       Were my experiences just unlucky and I've been a snob
(Cisco/Juniper etc still crash like crazy when you're not on the right image
for the right features)?

2.       Is there a culture change

a.       Are people's expectations generally different now - ie:
crashing/bad performance is actually not considered a big deal; Or

b.      Are techs being forced to cut costs and so you go for a Mikro though
it is not most ideal?

3.       Skeeve is right and Mikro's should not be considered for ent
deployments?

4.       Is Skeeve representative of a different class of expectations?

From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net
[mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Skeeve Stevens
Sent: Monday, 11 February 2013 13:48
To: Joseph Goldman
Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Cisco 7200 routers for sale

Sorry, and I realise it will probably be an unpopular thing to say... but I
do NOT rate anything from Mikrotik in the enterprise grade.

Sure the features aren't bad, and they are good for certain things... like
non-critical deployments, but I see them in the same class as Netgear, Dlink
or Linksys... Talented Amateur equipment, not professional kit.

<flame war on> 

..Skeeve

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On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 1:14 PM, Joseph Goldman <joe at apcs.com.au> wrote:

Are you talking for core/edge routing or for DSL Aggregation?

Seems a popular solution of the moment is to move to MikroTik routers for
core routing, specifically the RB1100AHx2, or perhaps their 'Cloud' router
that is newer. Since they are so cheap, it is not hard to purchase multiple
and have them in a load balanced/fail over situation.

In terms of DSL Aggregation, I believe the upgrade path in the Cisco world
from a 7200/7300 would be to the ASR 1000 routers. I could well be wrong
though.

On 11/02/13 1:08 PM, James Braunegg wrote:

Dear Ausnog 

Our four VXR's have been collecting dust for years now. they were a good
router but with today's throughput the G2 just doesn't cut it anymore being
software based / none asic solution.

So what hardware did everyone upgraded to ?  - We ended up migrating to the
Brocade MLXe X series and haven't looked back (Love their products - Plug
for Brocade)!

Kindest Regards

James Braunegg
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From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net
[mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Nicholas Meredith
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 12:12 PM
To: Tom Berryman
Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Cisco 7200 routers for sale

Since the thread is here I also have a few 7206VXRs with G1 and 2 NPEs

Kind Regards,

Nicholas Meredith
nicholas at udhaonline.net
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On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Tom Berryman <tom at connectivityit.com.au>
wrote:

I have a few Cisco 7200 routers with NPE-G1 for sale- recently removed from
production. Anyone interested please contact me off list.

Tom

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