[AusNOG] News: Telstra to clamp down on peer-to-peer

[Sean K. Finn]

...Says the engie who buffers the entire Internet into ram each and every day...

From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Phillip Grasso
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 10:30 AM
To: Craig Askings
Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] News: Telstra to clamp down on peer-to-peer

buffers are for whimps. ;-p

On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Craig Askings <craig at askings.com.au<mailto:craig at askings.com.au>> wrote:
Ok so the buffers are now full and a voice packet arrives. Do you want the router / switch to drop that voice packet or choose another packet to take one for the team? That is what QoS is for, even with small buffers you still need QoS to pick the loser.

Craig.

On 07/02/2013, at 10:11 AM, Nicholas Meredith <nicholas at udhaonline.net<mailto:nicholas at udhaonline.net>> wrote:



I don't follow, congestion won't cause latency if buffers are controlled correctly. How is QoS better in this case?
On 07/02/2013 9:27 AM, "Paul Brooks" <pbrooks-ausnog at layer10.com.au<mailto:pbrooks-ausnog at layer10.com.au>> wrote:
On 7/02/2013 8:10 AM, Nicholas Meredith wrote:
>
> If bufferbloat gets resolved it will render QoS utterly redundant.
>
perhaps...until a link went down and the streams re-routed to another path causing
congestion, or more traffic thrown on the original path also causing congestion.
Even if bufferbloat might  'get resolved', which it won't.

P.
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