[AusNOG] News: Telstra to clamp down on peer-to-peer

[Chris Ricks]

Methods exist to throttle pretty much any sort of traffic irrespective
of protocol-level encryption or port randomisation, so I wouldn't think
that any traffic management would be based on TCP/UDP ports.

The thing that surprises me is that this is Telstra making these sorts
of statements. They pay nothing for domestic traffic sourcing, they have
massive infrastructure in place to service residential and corporate
customers, do not need to rely on third parties for intercapital or
international connectivity (beyond buying very cheap transit in the US
etc) and are collecting significant revenue from wholesale customers.

It almost smells of cost control going forward, assuming a significant
uplift in traffic levels with LTE Advanced and widely available NBN
connectivity.

On 6/02/2013 11:15 PM, Phillip Grasso wrote:
> Its their network and cost dynamic they should manage how they see
> fit; so long as they aren't blocking or going against net neutrality. 
>
> The wider concern is how does this impact the rest of the industry;
> are they Cough 'signalling' cough..... (hmm e.g. one bank announces
> their interest rates increase; surprise  the others do exactly the
> same [ well not any more] ).  The concern is that we go back to dark
> ages of blocking potential innovations / opportunities for our local
> industry. Limiting its ability to flourish by creating possible large
> 'constraints' on the next generation products / services. NBN coming
> down the line, I'd hope that 'could' pave the way for 'lan' style
> speeds to homes and allowing the Australian industry to be incubators
> of the next Google's/Facebooks of the world.  
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 9:59 PM, Joshua D'Alton <joshua at railgun.com.au
> <mailto:joshua at railgun.com.au>> wrote:
>
>     Yes you can be skypes ports won't be blocked, it will be the
>     standard P2P ports like 6969 and so on.
>
>     On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 9:29 PM, Scott Howard <scott at doc.net.au
>     <mailto:scott at doc.net.au>> wrote:
>
>         On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 10:45 PM, Julian DeMarchi
>         <julian at jdcomputers.com.au <mailto:julian at jdcomputers.com.au>>
>         wrote:
>
>             On 02/05/2013 09:02 PM, Joshua D'Alton wrote:
>             > And not to mention P2P torrent traffic is only about 10%
>             of illegal
>             > traffic, compared to the 30%+ of file locker and 60%+ of
>             usenet.
>
>             http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skype
>
>             runs over p2p...
>
>
>         Parts of that page are very much out of date.  Although Skype
>         is still technically peer-to-peer based, the "peers"
>         (supernodes) that previously could be any other Skype users
>         system, are now only Microsoft systems in Microsoft
>         datacenters. So in essence, it's more of a client-server
>         architecture than P2P (even though it still does use P2P-style
>         concepts to find those servers)
>
>         Even so, it's a moot point - Telstra aren't talking about
>         throttling "P2P", they are talking about throttling specific
>         P2P protocols - and dollars-to-donuts says Skype would not be
>         one of those they are considering.
>
>           Scott
>
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