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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Methods exist to throttle pretty much
      any sort of traffic irrespective of protocol-level encryption or
      port randomisation, so I wouldn't think that any traffic
      management would be based on TCP/UDP ports.<br>
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      The thing that surprises me is that this is Telstra making these
      sorts of statements. They pay nothing for domestic traffic
      sourcing, they have massive infrastructure in place to service
      residential and corporate customers, do not need to rely on third
      parties for intercapital or international connectivity (beyond
      buying very cheap transit in the US etc) and are collecting
      significant revenue from wholesale customers.<br>
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      It almost smells of cost control going forward, assuming a
      significant uplift in traffic levels with LTE Advanced and widely
      available NBN connectivity. <br>
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      On 6/02/2013 11:15 PM, Phillip Grasso wrote:<br>
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        <div style="">Its their network and cost dynamic they should
          manage how they see fit; so long as they aren't blocking or
          going against net neutrality. </div>
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        <div style="">The wider concern is how does this impact the rest
          of the industry; are they Cough 'signalling' cough..... (hmm
          e.g. one bank announces their interest rates
          increase; surprise  the others do exactly the same [ well not
          any more] ).  The concern is that we go back to dark ages of
          blocking potential innovations / opportunities for our local
          industry. Limiting its ability to flourish by creating
          possible large 'constraints' on the next generation products /
          services. NBN coming down the line, I'd hope that 'could' pave
          the way for 'lan' style speeds to homes and allowing the
          Australian industry to be incubators of the next
          Google's/Facebooks of the world.  </div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 9:59 PM, Joshua
          D'Alton <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:joshua@railgun.com.au" target="_blank">joshua@railgun.com.au</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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            .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Yes you
            can be skypes ports won't be blocked, it will be the
            standard P2P ports like 6969 and so on.<br>
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                <div class="h5">On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 9:29 PM, Scott
                  Howard <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:scott@doc.net.au" target="_blank">scott@doc.net.au</a>></span>
                  wrote:<br>
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                    <div>On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 10:45 PM, Julian
                      DeMarchi <span dir="ltr"><<a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:julian@jdcomputers.com.au"
                          target="_blank">julian@jdcomputers.com.au</a>></span>
                      wrote:<br>
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                          On 02/05/2013 09:02 PM, Joshua D'Alton wrote:<br>
                          > And not to mention P2P torrent traffic is
                          only about 10% of illegal<br>
                          > traffic, compared to the 30%+ of file
                          locker and 60%+ of usenet.<br>
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                          runs over p2p...<br>
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                      <div>Parts of that page are very much out of date.
                         Although Skype is still technically
                        peer-to-peer based, the "peers" (supernodes)
                        that previously could be any other Skype users
                        system, are now only Microsoft systems in
                        Microsoft datacenters. So in essence, it's more
                        of a client-server architecture than P2P (even
                        though it still does use P2P-style concepts to
                        find those servers)</div>
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                      <div>Even so, it's a moot point - Telstra aren't
                        talking about throttling "P2P", they are talking
                        about throttling specific P2P protocols - and
                        dollars-to-donuts says Skype would not be one of
                        those they are considering.</div>
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