[AusNOG] Juniper vs Cisco vs Brocade - what's best for BGP routing?

Joseph Goldman joe at apcs.com.au
Wed Dec 11 17:49:32 EST 2013


I did reply with this off-list, but think it's worth putting on list with the requirements posted. This will go against a lot of people's recommendations but for a budget, Mikrotiks latest routers seem to be a good option given the size of your network.

For that size, deploying multiple routers in a fail over mode capable of many gigabit of bandwidth should be achievable within $5k. We are seeing good results with the smaller units in <100mbit sites, and we are going to deploy into a 300mbit site soon that has multiple peering route tables plus a full route table from transit provider.

I will probably be blasted by others on list but oh well 

Andrew White <admin at uberskilled.com> wrote:

>Hey guys,
>
>Wow, thanks for all the replies - both on and off list. There's some
>fantastic ones here and some great information.
>
>To answer some of the questions:
>
>My budget is somewhere in the $5-15k range. I can go higher, but I'm
>not
>super comfortable doing so unless there's a good ROI reason to do so.
>Obviously bang for buck is important, as I'm not a huge business.
>
>In house support is a good point. I do have a CCNA and have a
>reasonable
>network topology and interconnectivity understanding - I'd imagine
>anything
>(as long as it has documentation) I can learn and support over time.
>
>Throughput is only about 150mbit bursing to 200mbit currently, but
>expansion is definitely planned and future proofing is wanted.
>
>I'm not sure about picking how many interfaces I need. I guess a couple
>for
>upstream, a couple for future upstreams, and maybe 4-6 for back into
>the
>network (for future proofing, I have 2 internal core routers
>currently).
>
>There's been a few suggestions of a physical Linux box or Linux VM.
>What
>would be the advantages/disadvantages of this compared to routing
>hardware?
>
>Thanks guys, I really appreciate the great responses!
>
>Andrew
>
>
>On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Andrew White <admin at uberskilled.com>
>wrote:
>
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> I've recently set up my own AS and I'm looking at broadcasting my own
>BGP.
>> I'm wanting to find some decent hardware at a reasonable price to do
>so.
>>
>> The same router will also run my servers (about 50 VMs/3 physical
>boxes)
>> and have to deal with multiple upstream providers (two currently, but
>more
>> to come at my DC).
>>
>> I also want something that can hold a big BGP routing table.
>>
>> When I was first getting into networking, Cisco was "the big thing".
>Now I
>> look at the market and Junipers seem really common for the cheaper
>end of
>> the market. I've seen Brocades too - I think they may be out of my
>price
>> range, but I'm not sure if they're worth the money or if there's a
>huge
>> benefit.
>>
>> I've been tossing up over a few Huawei models which are really,
>really
>> cheap!
>>
>> I don't know a ton about the hardware side of things and I'm sure
>there
>> are others on the list with a similar level of knowledge to me. I'm
>happy
>> for any vendor contacts, and I'm sure replies on list would be
>appreciated
>> for other people to learn about this too!
>>
>> Thanks guys!
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>
>
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