[AusNOG] New/old CBA scam

Christopher Mclean cjm at ausoptic.com
Thu Aug 22 07:31:42 EST 2013


Unfortunately these scum are also pretty skilled at sounding legit.

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Subject: Re: [AusNOG] New/old CBA scam

Nothing new there.  Scammers have been around before dinosaurs and just like the dinosaurs, some die off, some become case studies, some evolve ...


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Today's Topics:

  1. New/old CBA scam (Chris Hurley)
  2. Re: New/old CBA scam (Robert Hudson)
  3. Re: New/old CBA scam (Geoff Northcott)
  4. Re: New/old CBA scam (Peter Tiggerdine)
  5. Re: Pipe/Equinix Peering Costs + Megaport (Shane Short)
  6. Re: New/old CBA scam (Joshua D'Alton)
  7. Re: Pipe/Equinix Peering Costs + Megaport (Joshua D'Alton)


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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 18:19:12 +1000
From: Chris Hurley <chris at minopher.net.au<mailto:chris at minopher.net.au>>
To: <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>>
Subject: [AusNOG] New/old CBA scam
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Hi all,

As the authorities seem either unwilling or unable to help thought I would
pass on a new scam that hit my Dad today, fortunately I walked in the middle
of it and pulled the cable.

"indian" sounding call centre rings saying We are from the CBA bank and
seeing a $700 transaction going to New Zealand. We are holding it until you
give your approval. But we think you've been hacked please let us install
Team Viewer so we can load monitoring software. If you have any doubts call
1800429339 (which always rings out).

Then they proceed to trick credit card number and PIN.

While I pulled the network cable while team viewer was running and have ran
a full system scan thinking a reformat and install might be the best option?
Already called the Bank to cancel the card. Police were very uninterested in
following this up, suggested Scamwatch.



Regards,

Chris Hurley BE (Elec), MBA
Director


******************************************************
Minopher Pty Ltd     Phone: 1300 730 531
15 Nevana Street     Fax: +61-3-9763 3309
Scoresby,  3179 Victoria
Australia
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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 18:31:14 +1000
From: Robert Hudson <hudrob at gmail.com<mailto:hudrob at gmail.com>>
To: Chris Hurley <chris at minopher.net.au<mailto:chris at minopher.net.au>>
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Hi Chris,

State police are probably seemingly unwilling because they know that in
reality they have zero chance of every catching or prosecuting the people
running these scams due to jurisdictional issues.

Scamwatch or AFP would be a good start.

Regards,

Robert


On 21 August 2013 18:19, Chris Hurley <chris at minopher.net.au<mailto:chris at minopher.net.au>> wrote:


Hi all,

As the authorities seem either unwilling or unable to help thought I would
pass on a new scam that hit my Dad today, fortunately I walked in the
middle of it and pulled the cable.

"indian" sounding call centre rings saying We are from the CBA bank and
seeing a $700 transaction going to New Zealand. We are holding it until you
give your approval. But we think you've been hacked please let us install
Team Viewer so we can load monitoring software. If you have any doubts call
1800429339 (which always rings out).

Then they proceed to trick credit card number and PIN.

While I pulled the network cable while team viewer was running and have
ran a full system scan thinking a reformat and install might be the best
option?
Already called the Bank to cancel the card. Police were very uninterested
in following this up, suggested Scamwatch.



Regards,

Chris Hurley BE (Elec), MBA
Director


******************************************************
Minopher Pty Ltd     Phone: 1300 730 531
15 Nevana Street     Fax: +61-3-9763 3309
Scoresby,  3179 Victoria

Australia
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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 18:53:40 +1000
From: Geoff Northcott <geoff.northcott at miraz.com<mailto:geoff.northcott at miraz.com>>
To: Robert Hudson <hudrob at gmail.com<mailto:hudrob at gmail.com>>
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If you want help in dealing with it then contact CBA Group Security, let
them manage the police involvement...if it's a wide spread problem then
they will probably already have a case running.


On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Robert Hudson <hudrob at gmail.com<mailto:hudrob at gmail.com>> wrote:


Hi Chris,

State police are probably seemingly unwilling because they know that in
reality they have zero chance of every catching or prosecuting the people
running these scams due to jurisdictional issues.

Scamwatch or AFP would be a good start.

Regards,

Robert


On 21 August 2013 18:19, Chris Hurley <chris at minopher.net.au<mailto:chris at minopher.net.au>> wrote:


Hi all,

As the authorities seem either unwilling or unable to help thought I
would pass on a new scam that hit my Dad today, fortunately I walked in the
middle of it and pulled the cable.

"indian" sounding call centre rings saying We are from the CBA bank and
seeing a $700 transaction going to New Zealand. We are holding it until you
give your approval. But we think you've been hacked please let us install
Team Viewer so we can load monitoring software. If you have any doubts call
1800429339 (which always rings out).

Then they proceed to trick credit card number and PIN.

While I pulled the network cable while team viewer was running and have
ran a full system scan thinking a reformat and install might be the best
option?
Already called the Bank to cancel the card. Police were very uninterested
in following this up, suggested Scamwatch.



Regards,

Chris Hurley BE (Elec), MBA
Director


******************************************************
Minopher Pty Ltd     Phone: 1300 730 531
15 Nevana Street     Fax: +61-3-9763 3309
Scoresby,  3179 Victoria

Australia
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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 18:59:22 +1000
From: Peter Tiggerdine <ptiggerdine at gmail.com<mailto:ptiggerdine at gmail.com>>
To: Geoff Northcott <geoff.northcott at miraz.com<mailto:geoff.northcott at miraz.com>>
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Subject: Re: [AusNOG] New/old CBA scam
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Interesting the number does get answered. By whom I was prepared to ask.
On 21/08/2013 6:53 PM, "Geoff Northcott" <geoff.northcott at miraz.com<mailto:geoff.northcott at miraz.com>> wrote:


If you want help in dealing with it then contact CBA Group Security, let
them manage the police involvement...if it's a wide spread problem then
they will probably already have a case running.


On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Robert Hudson <hudrob at gmail.com<mailto:hudrob at gmail.com>> wrote:


Hi Chris,

State police are probably seemingly unwilling because they know that in
reality they have zero chance of every catching or prosecuting the people
running these scams due to jurisdictional issues.

Scamwatch or AFP would be a good start.

Regards,

Robert


On 21 August 2013 18:19, Chris Hurley <chris at minopher.net.au<mailto:chris at minopher.net.au>> wrote:


Hi all,

As the authorities seem either unwilling or unable to help thought I
would pass on a new scam that hit my Dad today, fortunately I walked in the
middle of it and pulled the cable.

"indian" sounding call centre rings saying We are from the CBA bank and
seeing a $700 transaction going to New Zealand. We are holding it until you
give your approval. But we think you've been hacked please let us install
Team Viewer so we can load monitoring software. If you have any doubts call
1800429339 (which always rings out).

Then they proceed to trick credit card number and PIN.

While I pulled the network cable while team viewer was running and have
ran a full system scan thinking a reformat and install might be the best
option?
Already called the Bank to cancel the card. Police were very
uninterested in following this up, suggested Scamwatch.



Regards,

Chris Hurley BE (Elec), MBA
Director


******************************************************
Minopher Pty Ltd     Phone: 1300 730 531
15 Nevana Street     Fax: +61-3-9763 3309
Scoresby,  3179 Victoria

Australia
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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 17:01:07 +0800
From: Shane Short <shane at short.id.au<mailto:shane at short.id.au>>
To: Robert Hudson <hudrob at gmail.com<mailto:hudrob at gmail.com>>
Cc: "ausnog at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>" <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Pipe/Equinix Peering Costs + Megaport
Message-ID: <521481D3.90804 at short.id.au<mailto:521481D3.90804 at short.id.au>>
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I don't feel it was particularly childish-- I would argue it's
straddling the lines of the charter:

This is NOT a forum for journalists to pick up leads, *sales people to
sell things*, end-users to pester their ISP, or bush lawyers to posit
their beliefs. Such behaviour will not be tolerated (see "Moderation"
below).

I'm happy to stand corrected if this isn't the case, however.

-Shane


Robert Hudson wrote:

I'm more concerned with the childish sniping on the list than the fact
that someone mentioned a commercially offered product.


On 20 August 2013 22:12, Shane Short <shane at short.id.au
<mailto:shane at short.id.au<mailto:shane at short.id.au%20%0b%3cmailto:shane at short.id.au>>> wrote:

   Yeah, I was wondering when this became ausnog-sales :)

   -Shane


   Tim March wrote:


       https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ouq25_dTo-s


       T.

       On 20/08/13 9:48 PM, Bevan Slattery wrote:

           Oh and Megaport is available not only in Equinix Sy1/2/3
           but also in
           Global Switch (now) and NEXTDC S1 (when it's launched
           later next month).
           No cross connect fee during the Test Drive too in Equinix,
           Global Switch
           MMMR's and NEXTDC S1.

           Full Megaport 10G (includes Mega-IX + access to the
           Megaport VCX service)
           $750/month
           Megaport Mega-IX only service 10G $500/month

           But as already stated the "test drive" service is free for
           the first 6
           months including cross connect including VCX's (Virtual
           Cross Connects).

           Over 50 people signed up and around 75 ports coming online
           in the next 60
           days as some of the fibre reaches a few more DC's.

           Watch this space www.megaport.com/blog<http://www.megaport.com/blog>
           <http://www.megaport.com/blog> or;
           sign up for Test Drive here
           http://www.megaport.com/megaporttestdrive.html

           Cheers

           [b]

           On 20/08/13 9:35 PM, "Cameron Daniel"
           <cdaniel at nurve.com.au <mailto:cdaniel at nurve.com.au<mailto:cdaniel at nurve.com.au%20%3cmailto:cdaniel at nurve.com.au>>> wrote:

               You've also got Megaport in SY1 & SY3, free for 6
               months then $500/m for
               IX only @ 10Gb.

               Cheers,
               Cameron

               On 2013-08-20 7:16 pm, Matt Palmer wrote:

                   On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 03:39:54PM +1200, Matt
                   Richards wrote:

                       We're in talks with Equinix about a new rack
                       in SY3, and they're
                       saying 100meg IX cost is $1000 plus
                       cross-connect. He mentioned that
                       some website had said it $250 and that wasn't
                       accurate.


                   Wow... $1000+XC for 100Mb makes even PIPE look
                   cheap.  I can't say for
                   certain, but I'm fairly confident that if you
                   push, you can get it from
                   Equinix cheaper than that.

                   If you want to use NSW-IX and don't want to faff
                   around with a link to
                   SY1,
                   ping me off-list -- we've got dark fibre between
                   SY3 and GS, and are
                   looking
                   at a hookup to NSW-IX.  I'm sure something can be
                   worked out.

                   - Matt

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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 19:12:58 +1000
From: "Joshua D'Alton" <joshua at railgun.com.au<mailto:joshua at railgun.com.au>>
To: Peter Tiggerdine <ptiggerdine at gmail.com<mailto:ptiggerdine at gmail.com>>
Cc: "AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net>" <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>>
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1) CBA security always the best approach, the issue will actually be looked
at, vs even AFP and even scamwatch it just goes onto the pile
2) If they had full access to teamviewer it only takes literally a
milisecond for them to infect the PC, so while format might be a bit
extreme, I'd definitely be paranoid about being compromised. cancelling the
card is probably a bit extreme but lacking in details, i guess if it was
creditcard and they had all pertinent information to use it.. good call.


On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 6:59 PM, Peter Tiggerdine <ptiggerdine at gmail.com<mailto:ptiggerdine at gmail.com>>wrote:


Interesting the number does get answered. By whom I was prepared to ask.
On 21/08/2013 6:53 PM, "Geoff Northcott" <geoff.northcott at miraz.com<mailto:geoff.northcott at miraz.com>>
wrote:


If you want help in dealing with it then contact CBA Group Security, let
them manage the police involvement...if it's a wide spread problem then
they will probably already have a case running.


On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Robert Hudson <hudrob at gmail.com<mailto:hudrob at gmail.com>> wrote:


Hi Chris,

State police are probably seemingly unwilling because they know that in
reality they have zero chance of every catching or prosecuting the people
running these scams due to jurisdictional issues.

Scamwatch or AFP would be a good start.

Regards,

Robert


On 21 August 2013 18:19, Chris Hurley <chris at minopher.net.au<mailto:chris at minopher.net.au>> wrote:


Hi all,

As the authorities seem either unwilling or unable to help thought I
would pass on a new scam that hit my Dad today, fortunately I walked in the
middle of it and pulled the cable.

"indian" sounding call centre rings saying We are from the CBA bank and
seeing a $700 transaction going to New Zealand. We are holding it until you
give your approval. But we think you've been hacked please let us install
Team Viewer so we can load monitoring software. If you have any doubts call
1800429339 (which always rings out).

Then they proceed to trick credit card number and PIN.

While I pulled the network cable while team viewer was running and have
ran a full system scan thinking a reformat and install might be the best
option?
Already called the Bank to cancel the card. Police were very
uninterested in following this up, suggested Scamwatch.



Regards,

Chris Hurley BE (Elec), MBA
Director


******************************************************
Minopher Pty Ltd     Phone: 1300 730 531
15 Nevana Street     Fax: +61-3-9763 3309
Scoresby,  3179 Victoria

Australia
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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 19:15:08 +1000
From: "Joshua D'Alton" <joshua at railgun.com.au<mailto:joshua at railgun.com.au>>
To: Shane Short <shane at short.id.au<mailto:shane at short.id.au>>
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I don't think it was you to whom he was referring, and as always its for
the moderators to handle not the list to create tens of spam posts
discussing each and every possible infraction of the charter. speaking of,
didn't get my copy 1st of this month, hmmm. not that OP doesn't know the
charter..


On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Shane Short <shane at short.id.au<mailto:shane at short.id.au>> wrote:


I don't feel it was particularly childish-- I would argue it's straddling
the lines of the charter:

This is NOT a forum for journalists to pick up leads, *sales people to
sell things*, end-users to pester their ISP, or bush lawyers to posit
their beliefs. Such behaviour will not be tolerated (see "Moderation"
below).

I'm happy to stand corrected if this isn't the case, however.

-Shane


Robert Hudson wrote:


I'm more concerned with the childish sniping on the list than the fact
that someone mentioned a commercially offered product.


On 20 August 2013 22:12, Shane Short <shane at short.id.au <mailto:
shane at short.id.au<mailto:shane at short.id.au%20%3cmailto:%0bshane at short.id.au>>> wrote:

   Yeah, I was wondering when this became ausnog-sales :)

   -Shane


   Tim March wrote:


       https://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=Ouq25_dTo-s<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ouq25_dTo-s<https://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=Ouq25_dTo-s%3chttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ouq25_dTo-s>>


       T.

       On 20/08/13 9:48 PM, Bevan Slattery wrote:

           Oh and Megaport is available not only in Equinix Sy1/2/3
           but also in
           Global Switch (now) and NEXTDC S1 (when it's launched
           later next month).
           No cross connect fee during the Test Drive too in Equinix,
           Global Switch
           MMMR's and NEXTDC S1.

           Full Megaport 10G (includes Mega-IX + access to the
           Megaport VCX service)
           $750/month
           Megaport Mega-IX only service 10G $500/month

           But as already stated the "test drive" service is free for
           the first 6
           months including cross connect including VCX's (Virtual
           Cross Connects).

           Over 50 people signed up and around 75 ports coming online
           in the next 60
           days as some of the fibre reaches a few more DC's.

           Watch this space www.megaport.com/blog<http://www.megaport.com/blog>
           <http://www.megaport.com/blog> or;

           sign up for Test Drive here
           http://www.megaport.com/**megaporttestdrive.html<http://www.megaport.com/megaporttestdrive.html<http://www.megaport.com/**megaporttestdrive.html%3chttp:/www.megaport.com/megaporttestdrive.html>>

           Cheers

           [b]

           On 20/08/13 9:35 PM, "Cameron Daniel"
           <cdaniel at nurve.com.au <mailto:cdaniel at nurve.com.au<mailto:cdaniel at nurve.com.au%20%3cmailto:cdaniel at nurve.com.au>>> wrote:

               You've also got Megaport in SY1 & SY3, free for 6
               months then $500/m for
               IX only @ 10Gb.

               Cheers,
               Cameron

               On 2013-08-20 7:16 pm, Matt Palmer wrote:

                   On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 03:39:54PM +1200, Matt
                   Richards wrote:

                       We're in talks with Equinix about a new rack
                       in SY3, and they're
                       saying 100meg IX cost is $1000 plus
                       cross-connect. He mentioned that
                       some website had said it $250 and that wasn't
                       accurate.


                   Wow... $1000+XC for 100Mb makes even PIPE look
                   cheap.  I can't say for
                   certain, but I'm fairly confident that if you
                   push, you can get it from
                   Equinix cheaper than that.

                   If you want to use NSW-IX and don't want to faff
                   around with a link to
                   SY1,
                   ping me off-list -- we've got dark fibre between
                   SY3 and GS, and are
                   looking
                   at a hookup to NSW-IX.  I'm sure something can be
                   worked out.

                   - Matt

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