[AusNOG] Noglist.com

[Brad Evans]

That would defeat the purpose of the first point of issue with Ausnog.

1.  Any communication is available to any person or organisation that 
subscribes including journalists and non-network people


-Brad

On 26/04/2013 5:39 PM, Martin Barry wrote:
> Consider also letting people subscribe but not post if they don't meet 
> the criteria. This allows those who get value from the discussions to 
> listen in even if they won't have anything to contribute.
>
>
> On 26 April 2013 09:33, Don Gould <don at bowenvale.co.nz 
> <mailto:don at bowenvale.co.nz>> wrote:
>
>     Will your new list be publicly visible with only authorised
>     posters or simply completely closed?
>
>     D
>
>     On 26/04/2013 12:31 p.m., Bevan Slattery wrote:
>>     Hi everyone,
>>
>>     As part of the previous discussion, I prepared the new list
>>     called Noglist.com.  I was asked by Ausnog to hold off until they
>>     had a chance to propose a solution to the existing issues.
>>      Ausnog will be more proactively moderating the Ausnog list.  A
>>     great step forward and good news.
>>
>>     However, feedback from many people off-list is that regardless of
>>     increased moderation, they feel they are no longer prepared to
>>     contribute to many of the discussions due to the open nature of
>>     the list.  Concerns include:
>>
>>     1.  Any communication is available to any person or organisation
>>     that subscribes including journalists and non-network people
>>     2.  Any communication is archived publicly and widely available
>>     to the public
>>     3.  While initial discussions are generally on-topic, they
>>     typically detoriate over a short period of time
>>     4.  Too much non-technical traffic is still being generated
>>
>>     It has been agreed that a new closed list will be created.
>>      Requirements are listed on the site and include:
>>
>>      1.  network operator/administrator or engineer on a public
>>         network with an ASN.
>>      2. technical expert for network hardware or software systems
>>      3. Owner/operator of underlying critical network infrastructure
>>         (data centres, underground infrastructure eg. pit/pipe,
>>         submarine or inter-capital, energy and utility providers)
>>      4. Persons who are widely recognised as having considerable and
>>         valuable input to the community
>>
>>     It is the intention that the list will build over a reasonably
>>     short period of time to include all major network and
>>     infrastructure administrators and owners.
>>
>>     Now to be very clear -- it is not intended to replace Ausnog and
>>     will NOT replace Ausnog.  Ausnog is a very valuable resource to
>>     the community.  However what has become apparent is that there is
>>     a substantial amount of information that is not discussed or
>>     disclosed to the Ausnog list for fear of possible sensitive
>>     information being republished.
>>
>>     Currently running a test environment here:
>>     https://noglist.com/test.php
>>
>>     This is for information only and not intended for discussion.
>>
>>     Cheers
>>
>>     [b]
>>
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