[AusNOG] Noglist.com

Brad Evans brad at delion.com.au
Fri Apr 26 17:49:31 EST 2013


That would defeat the purpose of the first point of issue with Ausnog.

1.  Any communication is available to any person or organisation that 
subscribes including journalists and non-network people


-Brad

On 26/04/2013 5:39 PM, Martin Barry wrote:
> Consider also letting people subscribe but not post if they don't meet 
> the criteria. This allows those who get value from the discussions to 
> listen in even if they won't have anything to contribute.
>
>
> On 26 April 2013 09:33, Don Gould <don at bowenvale.co.nz 
> <mailto:don at bowenvale.co.nz>> wrote:
>
>     Will your new list be publicly visible with only authorised
>     posters or simply completely closed?
>
>     D
>
>     On 26/04/2013 12:31 p.m., Bevan Slattery wrote:
>>     Hi everyone,
>>
>>     As part of the previous discussion, I prepared the new list
>>     called Noglist.com.  I was asked by Ausnog to hold off until they
>>     had a chance to propose a solution to the existing issues.
>>      Ausnog will be more proactively moderating the Ausnog list.  A
>>     great step forward and good news.
>>
>>     However, feedback from many people off-list is that regardless of
>>     increased moderation, they feel they are no longer prepared to
>>     contribute to many of the discussions due to the open nature of
>>     the list.  Concerns include:
>>
>>     1.  Any communication is available to any person or organisation
>>     that subscribes including journalists and non-network people
>>     2.  Any communication is archived publicly and widely available
>>     to the public
>>     3.  While initial discussions are generally on-topic, they
>>     typically detoriate over a short period of time
>>     4.  Too much non-technical traffic is still being generated
>>
>>     It has been agreed that a new closed list will be created.
>>      Requirements are listed on the site and include:
>>
>>      1.  network operator/administrator or engineer on a public
>>         network with an ASN.
>>      2. technical expert for network hardware or software systems
>>      3. Owner/operator of underlying critical network infrastructure
>>         (data centres, underground infrastructure eg. pit/pipe,
>>         submarine or inter-capital, energy and utility providers)
>>      4. Persons who are widely recognised as having considerable and
>>         valuable input to the community
>>
>>     It is the intention that the list will build over a reasonably
>>     short period of time to include all major network and
>>     infrastructure administrators and owners.
>>
>>     Now to be very clear -- it is not intended to replace Ausnog and
>>     will NOT replace Ausnog.  Ausnog is a very valuable resource to
>>     the community.  However what has become apparent is that there is
>>     a substantial amount of information that is not discussed or
>>     disclosed to the Ausnog list for fear of possible sensitive
>>     information being republished.
>>
>>     Currently running a test environment here:
>>     https://noglist.com/test.php
>>
>>     This is for information only and not intended for discussion.
>>
>>     Cheers
>>
>>     [b]
>>
>>
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