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That would defeat the purpose of the first point of issue with
Ausnog. <br>
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1. Any communication is available to any person or organisation
that subscribes including journalists and non-network people<br>
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-Brad<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 26/04/2013 5:39 PM, Martin Barry
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<div dir="ltr">Consider also letting people subscribe but not post
if they don't meet the criteria. This allows those who get value
from the discussions to listen in even if they won't have
anything to contribute.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 26 April 2013 09:33, Don Gould
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Will your new
list be publicly visible with only authorised
posters or simply completely closed?<br>
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D
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<div>On 26/04/2013 12:31 p.m., Bevan Slattery
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<div>Hi everyone,</div>
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<div>As part of the previous discussion, I
prepared the new list called Noglist.com. I
was asked by Ausnog to hold off until they
had a chance to propose a solution to the
existing issues. Ausnog will be more
proactively moderating the Ausnog list. A
great step forward and good news.</div>
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<div>However, feedback from many people
off-list is that regardless of increased
moderation, they feel they are no longer
prepared to contribute to many of the
discussions due to the open nature of the
list. Concerns include:</div>
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<div>1. Any communication is available to any
person or organisation that subscribes
including journalists and non-network people</div>
<div>2. Any communication is archived
publicly and widely available to the public</div>
<div>3. While initial discussions are
generally on-topic, they typically detoriate
over a short period of time</div>
<div>4. Too much non-technical traffic is
still being generated</div>
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<div>It has been agreed that a new closed list
will be created. Requirements are listed on
the site and include:</div>
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<ol>
<li> network operator/administrator or
engineer on a public network with an
ASN.</li>
<li> technical expert for network hardware
or software systems</li>
<li> Owner/operator of underlying critical
network infrastructure (data centres,
underground infrastructure eg. pit/pipe,
submarine or inter-capital, energy and
utility providers)</li>
<li> Persons who are widely recognised as
having considerable and valuable input
to the community</li>
</ol>
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<div>It is the intention that the list will
build over a reasonably short period of time
to include all major network and
infrastructure administrators and owners.</div>
<div><br>
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<div>Now to be very clear – it is not intended
to replace Ausnog and will NOT replace
Ausnog. Ausnog is a very valuable resource
to the community. However what has become
apparent is that there is a substantial
amount of information that is not discussed
or disclosed to the Ausnog list for fear of
possible sensitive information being
republished.</div>
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<div>Currently running a test environment
here: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://noglist.com/test.php"
target="_blank">https://noglist.com/test.php</a> </div>
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<div>This is for information only and not
intended for discussion.</div>
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<div>Cheers</div>
<div><br>
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