[AusNOG] Understanding lack of Aus connectivity to melbournefreeuniversity.org.

[hannah commodore]

Speaking of specific LEA requests may be disallowed, but nothing prevents operators from discussing them generally.
Acknowledging that carriers do occasionally receive requests to block a /32, and act on them, is all that the OP is asking

On 13/04/2013, at 10:59, Bevan Slattery <bevan at slattery.net.au> wrote:

> Hi Serge,
> 
> This is a network operators group.  If you don't know what a "lawful request" is, then you don't operate a network (at least envisaged by this list).  If you are wanting to know what the "lawful request in this instance" then you don't operate a network, because if you did, you would know that if you receive a lawful request to block, then you can't talk about it, meaning you won't get an answer to your question on this list.
> 
> Either way, do your research off list please – it's [mostly] all there.  The rest of it is when you do your Interception Capability Plan with the Attorney Generals Department and others and as you can guess – they/we can't talk about that either.  But we (Network Operators) all already know that too…
> 
> Cheers
> 
> [b]
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> From: Serge Burjak <sburjak at systech.com.au>
> Date: Saturday, 13 April 2013 10:37 AM
> To: J Williams <jphwilliams at gmail.com>
> Cc: "ausnog at lists.ausnog.net" <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Understanding lack of Aus connectivity to melbournefreeuniversity.org.
> 
> What is a lawful request in this instance?
> 
> On 13/04/2013, at 9:56, J Williams <jphwilliams at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Finally a sensible answer.
>> The carriers may be complying with a request from a lawful enforcement agency to filter this IP address, and are therefore unable to provide any further details, as per their obligations.
>> Telling them to 'man up' (which could be interpreted as sexist) or shooting down the intermediary is ridiculous and unhelpful.
>> 
>> Firstly, since this is deliberately blocked, the parties involved need to direct their queries to the relevant government body, perhaps -> http://www.afp.gov.au/contact.aspx
>> Secondly, the internet has many workarounds, the end user can change hosting (to within Australia?) or ask the current provider for a different IP address, etc.
>> 
>> Please let us know how you go Danny.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Julian
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 2:08 AM, Phillip Grasso <phillip.grasso at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> If government interception was involved any parties cooperating wouldn't be able to say anything. Why won't the end user move another service and see if the block follows them.
>>> 
>>> On 11/04/2013 12:38 PM, "Joshua D'Alton" <joshua at railgun.com.au> wrote:
>>>> **ford.com
>>>> 
>>>> Well theres the culprit... ;)
>>>> 
>>>> The sad thing is the real culprit site has more than likely already moved to another IP, leaving all these legit sites up the creek. It's the piracy/DRM argument all over again :(
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 9:09 PM, Simon Lyall <simon at darkmere.gen.nz> wrote:
>>>>> 1. Works from New Zealand
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2. There is a list of websites hosted on that IP at http://sameid.net/ip/198.136.54.104 . However they obscure the first two characters of each domain. Skimming though it nothing really jumped out. A fairly high number of Australian sites, all boring stuff:
>>>>> 
>>>>> www.clanfraser.org.au
>>>>> www.tradecoastproperties.com.au
>>>>> www.fromholtz.com.au
>>>>> www.brunswickplace.com.au
>>>>> www.bluewaterdeliveries.com.au
>>>>> 
>>>>> I keep expecting to find a Queensland dentist..
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Simon Lyall  |  Very Busy  |  Web: http://www.darkmere.gen.nz/
>>>>> "To stay awake all night adds a day to your life" - Stilgar | eMT.
>>>>> 
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