[AusNOG] Domestic Peering WAS: Vocus peering traffic missingfrom PIPE-IX?

Matthew Moyle-Croft mmc at mmc.com.au
Mon Nov 12 16:17:00 EST 2012


On 11/11/2012, at 9:00 PM, Joshua D'Alton <joshua at railgun.com.au> wrote:

> AARNet is a special case though, just as the various other research networks around the world get peering. Level3 for example doesn't accept any new peering at all, yet there have been 4 since 2000, all research networks.

AARNet is not the only AU network outside the GoF with AS703 peering.

MMC

> 
> On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Mark Prior <mrp at mrp.net> wrote:
> AARNet met Verizon's requirements and got peering with them. I believed we also met AAPT's until AAPT changed their policy.
> 
> Mark.
> 
> 
> On 12/11/12 3:18 PM, Chris Ricks wrote:
> With that said (AS703s requirements being met by AAPT, Optus and
> Telstra), is it likely that any other Australian carrier would be likely
> to meet them as well?
> 
> 
> On 12/11/12 15:32, Matthew Moyle-Croft wrote:
> On 11/11/2012, at 8:29 PM, Chris Ricks <chris.ricks at securepay.com.au> wrote:
> 
> There's been on list discussion stating that if the other 3 members of
> the GoF were evaluated using Verizon's published policy, they wouldn't
> get to keep the current arrangement - do you have an opinion on that
> either way?
> 
> I'd suggest that untrue.  All would meet AS703s requirements.
> 
> MMC
> 
> On 12/11/12 15:13, Mark Prior wrote:
> On 12/11/12 12:25 PM, Chris Ricks wrote:
> 
> Even if a merger of M2, iiNet and TPG occurred, their traffic volume
> would not put them in a position to discuss settlement-free or SKA
> peering with any of the GoF without government intervention - that is
> the crux of the issue here.
> I wouldn't put Verizon in the same box as the other three. They have a
> written peering policy and if you satisfy the policy via a test
> peering then you get to keep it.
> 
> AAPT had a policy (I wrote the first version :-) but it's a moving
> target, at least it was when I last tried to use it to get peering.
> Telstra's peering policy is mission impossible and Optus can't spell
> peering.
> 
> Mark.
> 
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