<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=iso-8859-1"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On 11/11/2012, at 9:00 PM, Joshua D'Alton <<a href="mailto:joshua@railgun.com.au">joshua@railgun.com.au</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">AARNet is a special case though, just as the various other research networks around the world get peering. Level3 for example doesn't accept any new peering at all, yet there have been 4 since 2000, all research networks.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>AARNet is not the only AU network outside the GoF with AS703 peering.</div><div><br></div><div>MMC</div><div><br></div><blockquote type="cite">
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Mark Prior <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mrp@mrp.net" target="_blank">mrp@mrp.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
AARNet met Verizon's requirements and got peering with them. I believed we also met AAPT's until AAPT changed their policy.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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Mark.</font></span><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
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On 12/11/12 3:18 PM, Chris Ricks wrote:<br>
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With that said (AS703s requirements being met by AAPT, Optus and<br>
Telstra), is it likely that any other Australian carrier would be likely<br>
to meet them as well?<br>
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On 12/11/12 15:32, Matthew Moyle-Croft wrote:<br>
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On 11/11/2012, at 8:29 PM, Chris Ricks <<a href="mailto:chris.ricks@securepay.com.au" target="_blank">chris.ricks@securepay.com.au</a>> wrote:<br>
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There's been on list discussion stating that if the other 3 members of<br>
the GoF were evaluated using Verizon's published policy, they wouldn't<br>
get to keep the current arrangement - do you have an opinion on that<br>
either way?<br>
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I'd suggest that untrue. All would meet AS703s requirements.<br>
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MMC<br>
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On 12/11/12 15:13, Mark Prior wrote:<br>
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On 12/11/12 12:25 PM, Chris Ricks wrote:<br>
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Even if a merger of M2, iiNet and TPG occurred, their traffic volume<br>
would not put them in a position to discuss settlement-free or SKA<br>
peering with any of the GoF without government intervention - that is<br>
the crux of the issue here.<br>
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I wouldn't put Verizon in the same box as the other three. They have a<br>
written peering policy and if you satisfy the policy via a test<br>
peering then you get to keep it.<br>
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AAPT had a policy (I wrote the first version :-) but it's a moving<br>
target, at least it was when I last tried to use it to get peering.<br>
Telstra's peering policy is mission impossible and Optus can't spell<br>
peering.<br>
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Mark.<br>
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