[AusNOG] Domestic Peering WAS: Vocus peering traffic missingfrom PIPE-IX?

[Joshua D'Alton]

AARNet is a special case though, just as the various other research
networks around the world get peering. Level3 for example doesn't accept
any new peering at all, yet there have been 4 since 2000, all research
networks.

On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Mark Prior <mrp at mrp.net> wrote:

> AARNet met Verizon's requirements and got peering with them. I believed we
> also met AAPT's until AAPT changed their policy.
>
> Mark.
>
>
> On 12/11/12 3:18 PM, Chris Ricks wrote:
>
>> With that said (AS703s requirements being met by AAPT, Optus and
>> Telstra), is it likely that any other Australian carrier would be likely
>> to meet them as well?
>>
>>
>> On 12/11/12 15:32, Matthew Moyle-Croft wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/11/2012, at 8:29 PM, Chris Ricks <chris.ricks at securepay.com.au>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  There's been on list discussion stating that if the other 3 members of
>>>> the GoF were evaluated using Verizon's published policy, they wouldn't
>>>> get to keep the current arrangement - do you have an opinion on that
>>>> either way?
>>>>
>>>>  I'd suggest that untrue.  All would meet AS703s requirements.
>>>
>>> MMC
>>>
>>>  On 12/11/12 15:13, Mark Prior wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 12/11/12 12:25 PM, Chris Ricks wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Even if a merger of M2, iiNet and TPG occurred, their traffic volume
>>>>>> would not put them in a position to discuss settlement-free or SKA
>>>>>> peering with any of the GoF without government intervention - that is
>>>>>> the crux of the issue here.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I wouldn't put Verizon in the same box as the other three. They have a
>>>>> written peering policy and if you satisfy the policy via a test
>>>>> peering then you get to keep it.
>>>>>
>>>>> AAPT had a policy (I wrote the first version :-) but it's a moving
>>>>> target, at least it was when I last tried to use it to get peering.
>>>>> Telstra's peering policy is mission impossible and Optus can't spell
>>>>> peering.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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