[AusNOG] Vocus vs. Pipe - Was: Vocus peering traffic missing from PIPE-IX?

[Skeeve Stevens]

Noel,

Because it affects us all.  In extra costs, extra complexity, extra
hassles, extra design considerations, less choice in interconnect options,
etc.

I've had multiple customers who have had extra work put on them by cable
re-routing and re-provisioning, which in the end all seems to be caused by
some bullshit turf war.

It is like the days when AAPT through Pipe out of their DC's.... now Pipe,
under the new ownership seems to be doing the same thing.  The company that
rose to success largely because of who ran it and how they operated, no
longer seems to consider what people think of them, which is sad, because
it is (or was) a good network asset.

They still have a good value proposition, but this shit doesn't help anyone.
*

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On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Noel Butler <noel.butler at ausics.net> wrote:

> **
> On Thu, 2012-11-08 at 00:30 +1100, Skeeve Stevens wrote:
>
>
> > Is anyone willing to openly talk about what is going on with Vocus and
> Pipe?
> > Who is pissed at who for what is the question?
>
> Ummm, sorry, why should they?
>
>
> The commercial agreement between them, is, well,  between them - nobody
> else.
>
> If you have a commercial agreement with PIPE and/or Vocus that's between
> you and each peer provider, it doesn't give anyone the right to know how
> they connect or why they change things.
>
> End result is, you are all still connected to the Internet, nobody has
> dropped off the face of it because of this.
> Life goes on.
>
>
>
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