[AusNOG] Bandwidth in Phillip Island

Daniel Pearson dpearson at pingco.com.au
Fri May 4 09:52:35 EST 2012


Hey all,

Thanks for all the responses. I have managed to arrange some site inspections for wireless and also looking at bonding DSL at a worst case... Will let you all know how we go. Looking to stretch nearly 70kms on microwave :) Should be fun!

I just wonder how Telstra has been allowed to not open up the fibre down there to non govt bodies.... but that is who they are!

Regards,
Daniel Pearson



-----Original Message-----
From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Mike Everest
Sent: Thursday, 3 May 2012 6:31 PM
To: 'Wade Millican'; 'Adam Nock'; 'Mark Newton'; 'Martin Visser'
Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Bandwidth in Phillip Island

> Ubiquiti Nanostation/Bullets can easily get upto 15Kms without issues. 
> TCO is in the hundreds.

Not without exceeding the regulatory limits for 5GHz class license! :-}

Significant care should be taken when using this equipment, and ALWAYS use the 'Auto Adjust to EIRP Limit' feature to be certain.

If both ends are more than a given distance from a population center of a defined size (15km/10000pp from memory) then you can buy a license to operate up to 200 watts, which can deliver those kinds of rates - otherwise 7-10Km is about the limit for any usable link, and less than 5Km for any decent rate throughputs.

Over 2-3Km, that class of equipment is fantastic value for money! (there are other brands available too, of course :-)

Cheers!

Regards,  Mike Everest.
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-----Original Message-----
From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Wade Millican
Sent: Thursday, 3 May 2012 5:59 PM
To: Adam Nock; 'Mark Newton'; Martin Visser
Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Bandwidth in Phillip Island

Please see NANOG49 presentation on a 50Km wireless deployment from @dorkmatt

http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog49/presentations/Wednesday/Long_Distance
_Wireless_N49.pdf


Happy to talk more off list as/if required.

Cheers,

Wade

On 3/05/12 5:55 PM, "Adam Nock" <Adam.Nock at amcom.com.au> wrote:

>Laser maybe? 
>
>Havent used it or ever seen it used, but this:
>http://www.ita-systems.com/html/products/laser/p/4/12.html
>Promises 10Mbit at 6km.
>
>Don't consider this an endorsement though. I was just bored and 
>googling
>:)
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net
>[mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Mark Newton
>Sent: Thursday, 3 May 2012 3:29 PM
>To: Martin Visser
>Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net
>Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Bandwidth in Phillip Island
>
>On Thu, May 03, 2012 at 05:23:49PM +1000, Martin Visser wrote:
>
> > Probably a long shot (literally) but it only looks to be around 6km
>across  > the water to the mainland. If you have line-of-sight, and can 
>find a a  > friendly patron, you might be able to get a 802.11 type of 
>point-to-point  > bridge setup for not a lot of money (connecting to 
>land-line based service).
>
>Over-water shots are problematic (microwaves reflect off ripples on the 
>water, leading to pretty extreme unreliability, packet loss, etc)
>
>You'll need very tall masts and a lot of output power.
>
> > Hardware can be had for less than a few hundred dollars at each end.
>
>Probably not for the output power you'd need (I suspect you'd be into 
>the territory of needing a spectrum license, which makes the equipment 
>pricier too)
>
>  - mark
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