[AusNOG] UK ISP's told to block P2P

Joseph Saxton Joe.Saxton at workforce.com.au
Wed May 2 12:57:46 EST 2012


imo the reason why these movie/groups are eyeing out isp's rather than
users itself is because its would be much easier for them to create a
law suit against and isp. And if they win more money for them

 

a user could easily defend them self and say no it wasn't me someone
broke into me wi-fi network and used my bandwidth. Unless their hard
drives are searched, but then again the amount they get from an
individual is nothing compared to a corporation. Its not possible to sue
every single individual who downloads an illegal torrent, the movie
company would just bankrupt themselves and their lawyers would be rich!

 

 

 

From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net
[mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Darren Ward
(darrward)
Sent: Wednesday, 2 May 2012 12:32
To: Paul Gear; ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] UK ISP's told to block P2P

 

That's why I thought it was interesting

 

Yes it's essentially just a website hosting a searchable directory
cached from search results or public submissions but it highlights the
extreme polarity that new media and consumption models are bringing to
the industry.

 

To call it illegal is a stretch because as Mark points out they don't
host the copyright material and as the iiNET case has shown at least
here enablement and facilitation haven't yet been successfully
prosecuted and thereby made illegal by ruling

 

In essence could such a site be considered different from Facebook or
any User Forum where users post all kinds of information and imagery
that in some jurisdictions are suspect?

 

Darren

 

From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net
[mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Paul Gear
Sent: Wednesday, 2 May 2012 12:11 PM
To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] UK ISP's told to block P2P

 

On 02/05/12 11:59, Darren Ward (darrward) wrote: 

Interesting to see how this plays out in the open/neutral debate: 

  

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/australian-it/isps-ordered-to-block-the-
pirate-bay/story-e6frgakx-1226344311225


"It's an illegal business model and we need to make sure we protect
customers from illegal business models."

Do these people really buy their own rhetoric?  Do they really expect
the general public to believe that anyone is being protected here other
than the big media companies and their pet politicians?

Paul


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