[AusNOG] OT: Police Wardriving. Where else but QLD!

[Skeeve Stevens]

Hmmmm this is a complicated issue.

Joseph, I think you have a point, but maybe for a different reason.

An issue I've not seen commented on yet is 'machine trespass'.  Many
devices automatically connect to open access points and attempt to access
the 'internet'.  Smart Phones, Tablets, Laptops and so on are often set
this way.  It is useful in many places where open hotspots are common.

Most hotspots are open, where you automatically connect, get an ip address
(using a resource already) then get redirected to a login or agreement
page, at which point you can get online.

So if your devices are doing this and you wander near an unsecured AP, and
it jumps online, picks up your email or does an update... are you
responsible?

I went to a friends place a couple of years ago... he couldn't print to his
wirelessly connected printer, but the internet worked fine.  Turned out
he'd been using a neighbours unsecured AP for months.  Sometimes your
machine just does things itself.

Yes, I do realise this is often a setting 'connect to open AP's', but it is
a very innocent one.


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On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 16:32, Joseph Saxton <Joe.Saxton at workforce.com.au>wrote:

> I don’t agree. If its an open network without any sort of authentication
> then you’re not breaking any rules. If you remember when telstra’s customer
> details was somehow available to the public internet due to poor security.
> There was no sort of login/authtication system that protects that
> information. Therefore the users who accessed that data shouldn’t be in
> trouble. Nothing is stopping them it’s just freely available on google. its
> telstra’s fault for not implementing correct security.****
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> So if a user access’s an open network that has no authentication or any
> sort of security then I don’t believe it is illegal. Its open, therefore
> people can access it. ****
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> *From:* ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:
> ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Jarrod Hassell
> *Sent:* Friday, 23 March 2012 16:11
> *To:* ausnog at ausnog.net
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] OT: Police Wardriving. Where else but QLD!****
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> If they actually connect to the AP without permission, could that be
> classed as QPS hacking?****
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> Regardless of whether it's secure or not, unauthorised access to computer
> systems is illegal, yes?****
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> Regards,****
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> Jarrod Hassell | Product Development Manager****
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> PACNET****
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> Tel: +61.3.9674.7506****
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> *From:* ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:
> ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Sean K. Finn
> *Sent:* Friday, 23 March 2012 10:46 AM
> *To:* 'Ausnog at ausnog.net'
> *Subject:* [AusNOG] OT: Police Wardriving. Where else but QLD!****
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> http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/technology/security/police-to-cruise-streets-for-unsecured-wifi-20120322-1vmof.html
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> “The project was *officially launched yesterday*<http://qpsmedia.govspace.gov.au/2012/03/22/war-driving-project-to-help-prevent-identity-theft/> to
> coincide with National Consumer Fraud Week.****
>
> Officers in the Hi Tech Crime Investigation Unit on wardriving missions
> will drive the streets of Brisbane with a laptop computer, looking for
> unsecured Wi-Fi networks.****
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> Residents and businesses owners in targeted areas will then be mailed
> information about how to effectively secure their connection.****
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> Police will return to the area some time later to check whether residents
> have taken heed of the warning.****
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> Read more:
> http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/technology/security/police-to-cruise-streets-for-unsecured-wifi-20120322-1vmof.html#ixzz1ptOph04u
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