[AusNOG] My Predictions for the ISP Industry

[Skeeve Stevens]

Mark,

At no point did I suggest that anyone turn off IPv4 - probably ever.  If
you think that, then you sadly misunderstood my email.  We will be living
in a dual stack world for a long time before people put a bullet in ipv4.

My email's point was that you have to do IPv6 as well as IPv4.  Was I
really that unclear?

FYI:

On the 6th of June 2012, less than 3 months from now, Facebook, Cisco,
Google, Microsoft Bing, Yahoo, Akamai and many others have pledged to turn
on IPv6 on their primary sites (www.) permanently - leaving it on, after
the successful trial of IPv6 Day last year.

See: http://www.worldipv6launch.org/


...Skeeve




On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 02:52, Mark Delany <g2x at juliet.emu.st> wrote:

> > But, it will take most ISPs a year or two to fully integrate IPv6 into
> > their networks, and those who haven't started doing it yet, might as well
> > be planning to shut down their businesses because in the next year or
> two,
> > it will be too late...
>
> Really? In which decade do you think that facebook.com, yahoo.com,
> twitter.com and google.com will stop returning an A RR? And what is
> their incentive for doing so?
>
> You need to explain why a business would voluntarily stop listening to
> IPv4 traffic and why ISPs would stop carrying it.
>
> If you have no explanation for that, then what has any ISP got to lose
> by just carrying IPv4? After all, it gets to everywhere and probably
> will do so for a very long time into the future.
>
> The big problem is that turning off IPv4 has no value-add and turning
> on IPv6 has no value-add, so no one cares to do either. Ergo,
> IPv4-only systems will continue to work for the foreseeable
> future. That means there is zero imperative to support IPv6.
>
> I'll be proved wrong when any major website discards their A RR web
> site and only advertise an AAAA web-site. Any volunteers? Apnic? Arin?
> ICANN? eintellego.net? Jut curious. If IPv6 is such a hit, when do you
> guys plan to drop your IPv4 RR?
>
>
> Mark.
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