[AusNOG] Buying IPv4

[Skeeve Stevens]

Nathan,

You are absolutely correct.

On Friday the 3rd of February 2011 the last /8 (103/8) was allocated from
IANA to APNIC.

On 15th of April, 2011 APNIC entered its /8, triggering the final /8 policy.

See the press release: http://www.apnic.net/publications/news/2011/final-8

We are now in Stage 3 -
http://www.apnic.net/community/ipv4-exhaustion/exhaustion-and-network-operators

If you want to read the FAQ about Stage 3, please see:
http://www.apnic.net/community/ipv4-exhaustion/exhaustion-and-network-operators/ipv4-stage3-faq

See: http://www.apnic.net/policy/add-manage-policy#9.10

"As of Friday, 15 April 2011, each new or existing APNIC account holder is
only eligible to request and receive delegations totalling a maximum /22
worth of address space from the APNIC IPv4 address pool. "

-

The final /8 basically says that all current APNIC members can receive UP
TO a maximum of a /22.

NEW members may also receive (up to a) /22 of IPv4, but it is the first and
last allocation they will receive.

There are thousands of /22's available for new members, so it will take a
while for those to dry up - but it will run out at some point.

So, if you received an allocation from APNIC on or after the 15th of April
2011, then you are ineligible to receive any more IPv4 (unless you somehow
got a /23 and want to get another /23).

Personally I am quite amused that the internet community doesn't realise
what has happened - a year ago.  This is why Ausnog now has threads with
people looking to buy IPv4.

One of the key issues is that people are extremely slow in migrating or
planning to migrate their networks to IPv6.  They biggest problem being
that users don't know about it, and indeed should they even care?

The way I see it will happen....

Actually, because this is likely to start a discussion, I will post it
separately.



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On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 20:58, Nathan Brookfield <
nathan.brookfield at serversaustralia.com.au> wrote:

> Shaun;
>
> I believe you are correct on some parts and not in others, If you would
> now like more after that final /22 allocation you will not receive another
> allocation from APNIC regardless of your requirements.
>
> Sleeve or some else correct me if I am wrong here?
>
> Kindest Regards,
> Nathan Brookfield
>
> On 13/03/2012, at 20:25, "Shaun McGuane" <shaun at rackcentral.com.au> wrote:
>
> Hi Nathan,****
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> I disagree with you there.****
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> If you can justify it you can get it – We have at our SecurITon DC a /21
> and recently a /22.****
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> It was not hard but there was some justification necessary.****
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> *From:* ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:
> ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Nathan Brookfield
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 13 March 2012 8:14 PM
> *To:* adamn at eyemedia.com.au
> *Cc:* ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Buying IPv4****
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> Quite the opposite, if you have already exhausted your /22 allocation from
> APNIC you're pretty much shit out of luck.****
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> Kindest Regards,****
>
> Nathan Brookfield****
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> On 13/03/2012, at 19:51, adamn at eyemedia.com.au wrote:****
>
> It's not that hard....
>
> We needed to become portable, as long as you can justify it (which we
> could with our hosting services) we obtained a /22 only 6 months ago. The
> paper work is the key and the APNIC people are great in helping work that
> through.
>
> Regards,
> Adam Niedzwiedzki
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