[AusNOG] Telstra's Texan Teaser - Tin Foil Stetsun anyone?

Matt Perkins matt at spectrum.com.au
Mon Jun 25 18:31:20 EST 2012


On my iphone 4s when i use safari it does the two requests. but another 
browser that I use most the time Atomic. Only does one request. 
Curiouser and Curiouser.




  On 25/06/12 6:21 PM, Seamus Ryan wrote:
> Both using telstra.iph
>
> I am quite puzzled.
>
> Sent from my <insert "i" device here>
>
> On 25/06/2012, at 5:35 PM, "Matthew Moyle-Croft" <mmc at mmc.com.au 
> <mailto:mmc at mmc.com.au>> wrote:
>
>> Which APN is that using?
>>
>> MMC
>>
>> On 25/06/2012, at 4:56 PM, Seamus Ryan wrote:
>>
>>> Interesting, I saw the exact same results.
>>> Just to throw a spanner in the works (if it's not already), I only 
>>> noticed the mentioned behaviour when using my personal Telstra mobile.
>>> My business/work supplied Telstra mobile was not followed up by a 
>>> request from any additional IP's
>>> Needs more foil....
>>> -Seamus
>>> *From:*ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net 
>>> <mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>[mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net]*On 
>>> Behalf Of*Joseph Goldman
>>> *Sent:*Monday, 25 June 2012 4:48 PM
>>> *To:*ausnog at lists.ausnog.net <mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
>>> *Subject:*Re: [AusNOG] Telstra's Texan Teaser - Tin Foil Stetsun anyone?
>>>  Through a 40~ odd minute phone call, I was able to speak to a chap 
>>> in `Level 2 Technical Support`, who has confirmed for me that it is 
>>> a part of Telstra's core system, where they track the websites you 
>>> have visited for bill reporting purposes.
>>>
>>>  In other words, I confirmed with the chap (I have a reference for 
>>> this call), that he could request billing to show a list of websites 
>>> I have visited and how long I was on those websites.
>>>
>>>  He informed me that these services hitting the same website is tied 
>>> in with that system.
>>>
>>>  It doesn't make sense why they would hit the site again as a GET, 
>>> as they could pull this from a transparent proxy, and the purpose of 
>>> scraping the website to gain extra insight about what i'm browsing, 
>>> would suggest they would keep the path/query string instead of just 
>>> hitting the root of the site, to actually see what content I am 
>>> browsing.
>>>
>>>  I was also informed that I can not opt-out of this occurring, so I 
>>> plan to contact ACCC or TIO in the morning to see what they can tell 
>>> me about the practise (who would you think is better?).
>>>
>>> Interesting indeed.
>>>
>>> On 25/06/12 3:38 PM, James Nicol wrote:
>>> Eric, you should check this out.
>>> http://www.zdnet.com.au/google-maps-coordinate-tracks-employees-339340095.htm
>>> James
>>> *From:*ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net 
>>> <mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>[mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net]*On 
>>> Behalf Of*Eric Pinkerton
>>> *Sent:*Monday, 25 June 2012 3:30 PM
>>> *To:*Matt Perkins;ausnog at lists.ausnog.net 
>>> <mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
>>> *Subject:*Re: [AusNOG] Telstra's Texan Teaser - Tin Foil Stetsun anyone?
>>> >Could it be that telstra are passing your browsing history in real 
>>> time to a marketing company who are then looking at the site to 
>>> gather some sort of marking info on the site you were just looking at.
>>> Would explain why they are not looking at there own cache.
>>> Last night I had a dream.  I dreamed I was walking along the beach 
>>> with the Lord.  Across the sky flashed scenes from my life.  For 
>>> each scene, I noticed three sets of footprints in the sand: one 
>>> belonged to me, one to the Lord, and one to a marketing company in 
>>> the US who was paying Telstra for my exact movements in real time.
>>>
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