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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On my iphone 4s when i use safari it
      does the two requests. but another browser that I use most the
      time Atomic. Only does one request. Curiouser and Curiouser.<br>
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       On 25/06/12 6:21 PM, Seamus Ryan wrote:<br>
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      <div>Both using telstra.iph</div>
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      <div>I am quite puzzled. <br>
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        Sent from my <insert "i" device here></div>
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        On 25/06/2012, at 5:35 PM, "Matthew Moyle-Croft" <<a
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        <div><base href="x-msg://890/">Which APN is that using?
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          <div>MMC</div>
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              <div>On 25/06/2012, at 4:56 PM, Seamus Ryan wrote:</div>
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                          ">Interesting, I saw the exact same results.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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                          ">Just to throw a spanner in the works (if
                          it’s not already), I only noticed the
                          mentioned behaviour when using my personal
                          Telstra mobile.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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                        <span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                          Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);
                          ">My business/work supplied Telstra mobile was
                          not followed up by a request from any
                          additional IP’s<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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                        <span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
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                          ">Needs more foil….<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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                                windowtext; " lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
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                                class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
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                                href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net"
                                style="color: blue; text-decoration:
                                underline; ">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a><span
                                class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>]<span
                                class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On

                                Behalf Of<span
                                  class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Joseph
                              Goldman<br>
                              <b>Sent:</b><span
                                class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday,
                              25 June 2012 4:48 PM<br>
                              <b>To:</b><span
                                class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net"
                                style="color: blue; text-decoration:
                                underline; ">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
                              <b>Subject:</b><span
                                class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re:
                              [AusNOG] Telstra's Texan Teaser - Tin Foil
                              Stetsun anyone?<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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                        <o:p> </o:p></div>
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                         Through a 40~ odd minute phone call, I was able
                        to speak to a chap in `Level 2 Technical
                        Support`, who has confirmed for me that it is a
                        part of Telstra's core system, where they track
                        the websites you have visited for bill reporting
                        purposes.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
                        <br>
                         In other words, I confirmed with the chap (I
                        have a reference for this call), that he could
                        request billing to show a list of websites I
                        have visited and how long I was on those
                        websites.<br>
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                         He informed me that these services hitting the
                        same website is tied in with that system.<br>
                        <br>
                         It doesn't make sense why they would hit the
                        site again as a GET, as they could pull this
                        from a transparent proxy, and the purpose of
                        scraping the website to gain extra insight about
                        what i'm browsing, would suggest they would keep
                        the path/query string instead of just hitting
                        the root of the site, to actually see what
                        content I am browsing.<br>
                        <br>
                         I was also informed that I can not opt-out of
                        this occurring, so I plan to contact ACCC or TIO
                        in the morning to see what they can tell me
                        about the practise (who would you think is
                        better?).<br>
                        <br>
                        Interesting indeed.<br>
                        <br>
                        On 25/06/12 3:38 PM, James Nicol wrote:<o:p></o:p></div>
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                        <span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
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                          ">Eric, you should check this out.</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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                        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.zdnet.com.au/google-maps-coordinate-tracks-employees-339340095.htm"
                          style="color: blue; text-decoration:
                          underline; ">http://www.zdnet.com.au/google-maps-coordinate-tracks-employees-339340095.htm</a><o:p></o:p></div>
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                        <span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
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                          ">James</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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                            <b><span style="font-size: 10pt;
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                                windowtext; " lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
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                              Tahoma, sans-serif; color: windowtext; "
                              lang="EN-US"><span
                                class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net"
                                style="color: blue; text-decoration:
                                underline; ">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a><span
                                class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net"
                                style="color: blue; text-decoration:
                                underline; ">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>]<span
                                class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On

                                Behalf Of<span
                                  class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Eric
                              Pinkerton<br>
                              <b>Sent:</b><span
                                class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday,
                              25 June 2012 3:30 PM<br>
                              <b>To:</b><span
                                class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Matt
                              Perkins;<span
                                class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net"
                                style="color: blue; text-decoration:
                                underline; ">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
                              <b>Subject:</b><span
                                class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re:
                              [AusNOG] Telstra's Texan Teaser - Tin Foil
                              Stetsun anyone?</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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                         <o:p></o:p></div>
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                        <span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">></span>Could
                        it be that telstra are passing your browsing
                        history in real time to a marketing company who
                        are then looking at the site to gather some sort
                        of marking info on the site you were just
                        looking at.<br>
                        Would explain why they are not looking at there
                        own cache.<o:p></o:p></div>
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                        <span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                          Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);
                          "> </span><o:p></o:p></div>
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                        <span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Last
                          night I had a dream.  I dreamed I was walking
                          along the beach with the Lord.  Across the sky
                          flashed scenes from my life.  For each scene,
                          I noticed three sets of footprints in the
                          sand: one belonged to me, one to the Lord, and
                          one to a marketing company in the US who was
                          paying Telstra for my exact movements in real
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