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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On my iphone 4s when i use safari it
does the two requests. but another browser that I use most the
time Atomic. Only does one request. Curiouser and Curiouser.<br>
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On 25/06/12 6:21 PM, Seamus Ryan wrote:<br>
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<div>Both using telstra.iph</div>
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On 25/06/2012, at 5:35 PM, "Matthew Moyle-Croft" <<a
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<div><base href="x-msg://890/">Which APN is that using?
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<div>On 25/06/2012, at 4:56 PM, Seamus Ryan wrote:</div>
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">Interesting, I saw the exact same results.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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it’s not already), I only noticed the
mentioned behaviour when using my personal
Telstra mobile.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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">My business/work supplied Telstra mobile was
not followed up by a request from any
additional IP’s<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span style="font-size: 10pt;
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windowtext; " lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
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lang="EN-US"><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
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href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net"
style="color: blue; text-decoration:
underline; ">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>]<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On
Behalf Of<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Joseph
Goldman<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday,
25 June 2012 4:48 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span
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href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net"
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<b>Subject:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re:
[AusNOG] Telstra's Texan Teaser - Tin Foil
Stetsun anyone?<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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Through a 40~ odd minute phone call, I was able
to speak to a chap in `Level 2 Technical
Support`, who has confirmed for me that it is a
part of Telstra's core system, where they track
the websites you have visited for bill reporting
purposes.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
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In other words, I confirmed with the chap (I
have a reference for this call), that he could
request billing to show a list of websites I
have visited and how long I was on those
websites.<br>
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He informed me that these services hitting the
same website is tied in with that system.<br>
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It doesn't make sense why they would hit the
site again as a GET, as they could pull this
from a transparent proxy, and the purpose of
scraping the website to gain extra insight about
what i'm browsing, would suggest they would keep
the path/query string instead of just hitting
the root of the site, to actually see what
content I am browsing.<br>
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I was also informed that I can not opt-out of
this occurring, so I plan to contact ACCC or TIO
in the morning to see what they can tell me
about the practise (who would you think is
better?).<br>
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Interesting indeed.<br>
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On 25/06/12 3:38 PM, James Nicol wrote:<o:p></o:p></div>
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">Eric, you should check this out.</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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lang="EN-US"><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
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class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On
Behalf Of<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Eric
Pinkerton<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span
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25 June 2012 3:30 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Matt
Perkins;<span
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<b>Subject:</b><span
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[AusNOG] Telstra's Texan Teaser - Tin Foil
Stetsun anyone?</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">></span>Could
it be that telstra are passing your browsing
history in real time to a marketing company who
are then looking at the site to gather some sort
of marking info on the site you were just
looking at.<br>
Would explain why they are not looking at there
own cache.<o:p></o:p></div>
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<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Last
night I had a dream. I dreamed I was walking
along the beach with the Lord. Across the sky
flashed scenes from my life. For each scene,
I noticed three sets of footprints in the
sand: one belonged to me, one to the Lord, and
one to a marketing company in the US who was
paying Telstra for my exact movements in real
time.</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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