[AusNOG] Telstra's Texan Teaser - Tin Foil Stetsun anyone?

Martin - StudioCoast martin.sinclair at studiocoast.com.au
Mon Jun 25 15:26:53 EST 2012


Australian ISPs (and I am assuming Telstra) have been handing over 
browsing history to HitWise for decades now, so maybe this is an 
extension of that?
I considered it to be a huge privacy issue at the time (and still do), 
but nobody seems to think that much of it which really surprised me..



On 25/06/2012 3:01 PM, Matt Perkins wrote:
> Could it be that telstra are passing your browsing history in real 
> time to a marketing company who are then looking at the site to gather 
> some sort of marking info on the site you were just looking at.
> Would explain why they are not looking at there own cache.
>
>
> On 25/06/12 2:40 PM, Matthew Moyle-Croft wrote:
>> FYI:
>>
>> https as well - although it's just touching the root of the website 
>> but then follows a redirect.
>>
>> MMC
>>
>> On 25/06/2012, at 9:20 AM, Eric Pinkerton wrote:
>>
>>> Ausnoggers..
>>> Whilst there is a lot of tin foil hattery and other spasticity on 
>>> this WP Thread,http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1935438- the 
>>> questions it throws up have made me curious, esp given Telstra's 
>>> official response in the following article "
>>> http://www.scmagazine.com.au/News/305928,telstra-says-its-not-spying-on-users.aspx
>>> //
>>> /"But in a short statement, Telstra's senior media boss Craig 
>>> Middleton said the company's wireless network management assured 
>>> that "there is nothing untoward in what the Whirlpool member has 
>>> observed -*it is a normal network operation"*NOTHING TO SEE HEAR 
>>> MOVE ALONG./
>>> //
>>> In short, if you make a request to a web server on port 80 from a 
>>> Telstra mobile, you'll see a request immediately after your legit 
>>> request from the Telstra gateway that originates from a US IP 
>>> address hosted at Rackspace.
>>> */Legit request../*
>>> /58.163.xxx.xxx - - [24/Jun/2012:23:12:09 +0000] "GET /test101 
>>> HTTP/1.1" 404 464 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; CPU iPhone OS 5_1_1 like 
>>> Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/534.46 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.1 
>>> Mobile/9B206 Safari/7534.48.3"/
>>> *//*
>>> */Curious identical request follows.../*
>>> /50.57.190.97 - - [24/Jun/2012:23:12:09 +0000] "GET /test101 
>>> HTTP/1.0" 404 526 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; 
>>> en-US; rv:1.9) Gecko/2008052906 Firefox/3.0"/*//*
>>> Whilst I accept this is probably benign, and can think of several 
>>> reasons why the output of such a process might be of value to 
>>> Telstra, I find myself less convinced than a certain senior media 
>>> boss seems to be that this is "/a normal network operation"./To me 
>>> normal would be to say pull this info straight from the proxy server.//
>>> Also, just to be awkward, I am curious as to why a cloud provider, 
>>> would be using what looks a lot like a cluster of VPS's in someone 
>>> else's cloud based out of Texas ;-)
>>> Also why is there a black helicopter hovering above me?
>>> So many questions....
>>> Discuss!
>>> E
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