[AusNOG] "All your router devices are belong to us"

[Chris Hurley]

Yes interesting times lie ahead for all of us in IT.

As providers we need to consider have we provided our clients with the
'correct' information. What they then do with it is their business. I can
see the lawyers having a field day, but in this day and age one has to cover
ones own butt. :-(

I miss the good old days of you build a go kart  line up down the hill - no
brakes, no helmet, wheels held on by bent nails. If you tumble/hit a rock
your problem rather than "the street wasn't smooth,

I know of many organisations that have legal requirements in their make
up/charters that information is either held locally or at least within
Australia.

Some even require data to be stored "on site" yes "on site" is a grey term
but if your dealing with  Koori groups be very aware of their binding legal
requirements. I only say Koori group as I have worked with a few so know
first hand their requirements. Remember they have required TV movies/shows
to post warnings "My contain pictures of dead people". Data = pictures  =
websites = storage.

Cisco in it's great push to the "cloud" is cutting across many
groups/companies/organisations legal obligations.

We need to inform the end users of what is happening.


On 2/07/12 11:05 AM, "Ben Dale" <bdale at comlinx.com.au> wrote:

> There are a few [1] other [2] vendors [3] that have been pushing the
> cloud-based management of enterprise network devices for some time now.
> Admittedly non of these guys have the pervasiveness of the big C, but they are
> popping up around the place, and if Cisco is pursuing this then I imagine
> customers must be asking for it.
> 
> The "all-in-the-cloud" message is pretty compelling for some enterprise shops
> whose core business is not IT, but for reasons already raised, the off-shore
> privacy and security implications remain largely unexplored and often simply
> ignored.
> 
> On the technical side though, the biggest issue I see is that the time when
> most enterprises need access to network management/monitoring the most is when
> something is down, and that something can just as easily be/is usually "the
> cloud".  The rest of the time, the blinking boxes in the cupboard just work.
> 
> Interesting times ahead.
> 
> [1] http://www.meraki.com/
> [2] http://www.aerohive.com
> [3] http://www.thecloud.net/
> 
> 
> On 30/06/2012, at 11:56 AM, Heinz N wrote:
> 
>> I just saw this on slashdot. Get the tin foil hats out.
>> 
>> http://tech.slashdot.org/story/12/06/29/1425210/cisco-pushing-cloud-connect-r
>> outer-firmware-allows-web-history-tracking
>> 
>> and
>> 
>> http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/vptu9/linksys_just_pushed_and_ins
>> talled_without_my
>> 
>> Seems CISCO is disallowing local admin to their low end home/SOHO routers.
>> Admin can apparently now only be done through their cloud (since when does a
>> cloud ever fail!!?)...... Their conditions also state that they can monitor
>> your traffic as they wish (and the "patriot act" NSA, FBI etc etc). No
>> telling what the bandwidth implications of this are: and who will pay for the
>> extra unauthorised traffic?
>> 
>> You may want to rethink your equipment for SOHO clients.
>> 
>> The whole issue with Telstra tracking HTTP traffic is just the start. How
>> long before your new "trusted computing" motherboard reflashes itself and
>> starts reporting all your stuff to Redmond (or China).
>> 
>> I am happy to stick with my dumb bridged modem talking to a Linux router
>> running iptables. Very cheap and with all the functionality of the most
>> expensive routers and it doesn't report to some mothership cloud.
>> 
>> Heinz N.
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Regards,

Chris Hurley BE (Elec), MBA
Director


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