[AusNOG] ubiquitous peering

[Joseph Goldman]

Hi John,

  The fact that most won't was more my point. The costs involved would 
likely far outweigh the gain.

  CommunityNet was more referenced on the idea of the local peering. 
implementation was irrelevant in my point, as the outcome was the same, 
keeping the bandwidth within the 'exchange' and not filling up backhaul 
pipes.

  With costs of $20/mbit, the point was not so much to be able to offer 
it for 'free' but to save on backhaul costs from POI to next core 
network point, but I am of the firm belief, as seem many, that you 
wouldn't see 'that' much data staying local, to make the extra effort 
worth it, but it would definitely be interesting to see in some of the 
busier POI's.

Thanks,
Joe

On 19/12/12 7:05 PM, John Edwards wrote:
> Hi Joseph,
>
> On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Joseph Goldman <joe at apcs.com.au> wrote:
>> The problem seems as you suggest, having full L3 gear at each POI, possible
>> for some, not for others who would probably rather L2 link it straight back
>> to a more central POP.
> With 121 Points of Interconnect, you can be fairly sure that only
> local single-POI RSP's are going to have L3 termination at the NBN
> site. With $20/Mbit aggregation costs, it's also a fairly safe bet
> that no-one is going to be offering "free" local peering either.
>
>> However the idea has merit, I believe Adam Internet do a similar thing with
>> their ADSL2+ Infrastructure in South Australia.
> Communitynet was a hack, exploiting the connected-interface route on
> home CPE to participate in a shared /22 network that was only a layer2
> vlan on the local exchange. This VLAN was extended to a central server
> that handed out per-vlan DHCP, but offered no routing or other
> services. It was difficult for end users to understand, and hard to
> get value from without effort!
>
> John