[AusNOG] Server BW limits

[Skeeve Stevens]

Simon,

Some think US pricing is good... but after a review, I've just shutdown my
US servers and in the process of shutting down some AU ones and moving them
all to Germany.

I found this place called Hetzner.de which have the most amazing prices
I've ever seen.

Fully dedicated (non-Virtual) servers.  I have 1 * EX4 and 1 * EX4S

The EX4S is:

Intel i2600-Quad Core
32GB of RAM
2 * 3TB Hard drives with RAID1
1 * IPv4 address (you can get more by paying)
1 * /64 IPv6
Connection: 100mb (can be upgraded to 1Gb for EUR39 which ups the included
data below to 15TB)
Data Included: 10TB (10,000 GB) - after exceeding that they reduce you to a
10MB pipe and you pay about AU$10 for each extra 1TB...  This is for
OUTGOING traffic only - incoming not counted.
Backup: 100Gb off server included.

Oh, this is for EUR59 (AU$71 or NZ$91) per month.

That is one of the small servers.  You can get an EX10 with
i7-3930K-Hexcore with 64GB of RAM - rest the same for EUR109 (AU$131 or
NZ$168)

If you wanted to setup a VMware server it can be done, but its a little
more effort.

Yes... I am sure most people will have the same response I did when I found
these guys.  They are pretty awesome.  Check out the url
http://www.hetzner.de/en/hosting/produktmatrix/rootserver-produktmatrix-ex

It isn't the best latency for dealing with Australia, but I think US is
fine.  I think the speed is amazing.

Some traceroutes.

[root at server01 ~]# traceroute 8.8.8.8
traceroute to 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  static.1.144.9.176.clients.your-server.de (176.9.144.1)  1.186 ms
 1.231 ms  1.259 ms
 2  hos-tr4.juniper2.rz16.hetzner.de (213.239.223.225)  0.130 ms
hos-tr3.juniper2.rz16.hetzner.de (213.239.223.193)  0.451 ms
hos-tr4.juniper2.rz16.hetzner.de (213.239.223.225)  0.125 ms
 3  hos-bb2.juniper4.ffm.hetzner.de (213.239.240.150)  5.788 ms  5.782 ms
 5.782 ms
 4  de-cix10.net.google.com (80.81.192.108)  5.601 ms  5.110 ms  5.572 ms
 5  209.85.241.110 (209.85.241.110)  5.573 ms  5.706 ms 209.85.240.64
(209.85.240.64)  5.056 ms
 6  72.14.236.68 (72.14.236.68)  6.955 ms 72.14.239.60 (72.14.239.60)
 6.421 ms 72.14.239.62 (72.14.239.62)  6.898 ms
 7  209.85.254.114 (209.85.254.114)  6.091 ms 209.85.254.116
(209.85.254.116)  5.716 ms  5.864 ms
 8  * * *
 9  google-public-dns-a.google.com (8.8.8.8)  6.080 ms  6.315 ms  6.061 ms



[root at server01 ~]# traceroute 4.2.2.1
traceroute to 4.2.2.1 (4.2.2.1), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  static.1.144.9.176.clients.your-server.de (176.9.144.1)  1.194 ms
 1.199 ms  1.227 ms
 2  hos-tr1.juniper1.rz16.hetzner.de (213.239.222.65)  0.166 ms
hos-tr2.juniper1.rz16.hetzner.de (213.239.222.97)  0.119 ms
hos-tr4.juniper2.rz16.hetzner.de (213.239.223.225)  0.131 ms
 3  hos-bb1.juniper1.ffm.hetzner.de (213.239.240.224)  4.803 ms
hos-bb2.juniper4.ffm.hetzner.de (213.239.240.150)  5.829 ms
hos-bb1.juniper1.ffm.hetzner.de (213.239.240.224)  4.791 ms
 4  s10-0-0-24.london2-cr2.bbnplanet.net (195.16.162.93)  5.151 ms  5.151
ms core-backbone-gw.level3.net (195.16.162.69)  24.008 ms
 5  a.resolvers.level3.net (4.2.2.1)  5.584 ms  5.183 ms  5.553 ms



[root at server01 ~]# traceroute bigpond.com.au
traceroute to bigpond.com.au (144.135.18.32), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  static.1.144.9.176.clients.your-server.de (176.9.144.1)  3.965 ms
 3.975 ms  3.996 ms
 2  hos-tr2.juniper1.rz16.hetzner.de (213.239.222.97)  0.125 ms
hos-tr4.juniper2.rz16.hetzner.de (213.239.223.225)  0.116 ms
hos-tr2.juniper1.rz16.hetzner.de (213.239.222.97)  0.138 ms
 3  hos-bb2.juniper4.ffm.hetzner.de (213.239.240.150)  5.797 ms  5.799 ms
 5.787 ms
 4  core-backbone-gw.level3.net (195.16.162.69)  5.585 ms  5.553 ms  5.571
ms
 5  vlan90.csw4.Frankfurt1.Level3.net (4.69.154.254)  5.645 ms
vlan70.csw2.Frankfurt1.Level3.net (4.69.154.126)  5.626 ms
vlan80.csw3.Frankfurt1.Level3.net (4.69.154.190)  16.850 ms
 6  ae-62-62.ebr2.Frankfurt1.Level3.net (4.69.140.17)  5.606 ms
ae-92-92.ebr2.Frankfurt1.Level3.net (4.69.140.29)  9.807 ms
ae-72-72.ebr2.Frankfurt1.Level3.net (4.69.140.21)  5.547 ms
 7  ae-22-22.ebr2.London1.Level3.net (4.69.148.189)  15.337 ms
ae-23-23.ebr2.London1.Level3.net (4.69.148.193)  15.304 ms
ae-22-22.ebr2.London1.Level3.net (4.69.148.189)  15.314 ms
 8  ae-41-41.ebr1.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.137.66)  83.713 ms  83.725 ms
ae-42-42.ebr1.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.137.70)  83.701 ms
 9  ae-71-71.csw2.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.134.70)  93.264 ms
ae-61-61.csw1.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.134.66)  83.676 ms  83.667 ms
10  ae-62-62.ebr2.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.148.33)  84.066 ms
ae-82-82.ebr2.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.148.41)  84.056 ms
ae-92-92.ebr2.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.148.45)  84.023 ms
11  4.69.135.185 (4.69.135.185)  152.110 ms  152.082 ms  152.896 ms
12  ae-91-91.csw4.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.14)  151.918 ms
ae-71-71.csw2.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.6)  151.923 ms
ae-81-81.csw3.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.10)  160.770 ms
13  ae-2-70.edge1.SanJose3.Level3.net (4.69.152.80)  152.494 ms
ae-3-80.edge1.SanJose3.Level3.net (4.69.152.144)  152.465 ms
ae-4-90.edge1.SanJose3.Level3.net (4.69.152.208)  152.438 ms
14  i-2-5-peer.eqnx02.pr.telstraglobal.net (134.159.62.197)  152.448 ms
 152.422 ms i-4-3-peer.eqnx02.pr.telstraglobal.net (134.159.61.5)  152.585
ms
15  i-0-3-4-0.eqnx-core01.bi.telstraglobal.net (202.84.251.86)  153.179 ms
 153.155 ms  152.934 ms
16  i-0-4-0-0.sydp-core01.bx.telstraglobal.net (202.84.143.14)  345.835 ms
 345.824 ms  345.793 ms
17  TenGige0-1-0-12.pad-gw1.Sydney.telstra.net (203.50.13.145)  347.028 ms
 347.008 ms  346.978 ms
18  Bundle-Ether3.chw-core2.Sydney.telstra.net (203.50.6.26)  347.170 ms
 349.164 ms  349.129 ms
19  TenGigabitEthernet8-1.pit2.Sydney.telstra.net (203.50.20.184)  348.483
ms  348.535 ms  348.232 ms
20  pitt-tcom-r02.lnk.telstra.net (139.130.41.70)  353.015 ms  352.745 ms
 353.040 ms


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*Skeeve Stevens, CEO - *eintellego Pty Ltd
skeeve at eintellego.net ; www.eintellego.net

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On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 6:37 AM, Simon Lyall <simon at darkmere.gen.nz> wrote:

>
> So since the latest wisdom seems to be that we should give up hosting
> servers in NZ and instead put machines in Syd/Mel I thought I'd look at the
> Australian dedicated/virtual hosting costs.
>
> What I've been buying in Europe/US is dedicated servers from 2nd tier
> vendors with 4G of RAM and minimal other specs. The big thing I'm after is
> bandwidth and I find I can get $100/month for 5TB on 100Mb/s or $200/month
> for 10TB on 1Gb/s . Those are good deals, the mid-market is $50-$100/month
> higher.
>
> Looking around about a dozen Australian providers nobody seems to be
> offering over 1TB/month until I get over $500/month.
>
> Note: My traffic would 99% to Aus and NZ.
>
> So my big question is:
>
> Are Australian bandwidth costs still so high that I'm not going to get
> anything remotely like EU/US pricing any time soon?
>
> Note to sales guys: I'm not going to be buying in the next month or two so
> please don't mail me the hard sell, if you have good prices online that
> I've missed then tell me. For this sort of purchase I work on the principle
> of going with vendors who list their prices online and do things
> automatically to keep costs low rather than building in salesman's margins.
>
>
> --
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