[AusNOG] iCloud - Is it going to hurt access providers?

[Angelo Giuffrida]

Possibly, but wouldn't it make sense for Apple to haul it all via a CDN
instead?

And they could cache it on their local mirrors, but it could pose issues
with music storage (seeing as it could potentially be stored on multiple
caches) which I didn't think of.

Cheers,

Angelo

Sent from my iPhone


On 03/09/2011, at 8:54 PM, Skeeve Stevens <Skeeve at eintellego.net> wrote:

 I thought Akamai was for download only?  And would they really replicate
all their customers data to each of the Akamai caches? I doubt it…

 Akamai then wouldn't be involved in my thoughts in the iCloud solution…
 just thinking out loud here.

 …Skeeve

 --

Skeeve Stevens, CEO - eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists

skeeve at eintellego.net ; www.eintellego.net

Phone: 1300 753 383 ; Fax: (+612) 8572 9954

Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve

facebook.com/eintellego or eintellego at facebook.com

twitter.com/networkceoau ; www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve

PO Box 7726, Baulkham Hills, NSW 1755 Australia


 --

eintellego - The Experts that the Experts call

- Juniper - HP Networking - Cisco - Brocade

  From: Angelo Giuffrida <angelo.giuffrida at gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 20:52:17 +1000
To: Skeeve Stevens <skeeve at eintellego.net>
Cc: "ausnog at ausnog.net" <ausnog at ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] iCloud - Is it going to hurt access providers?

  I believe majority of Apple's iCloud service will be delivered by Akamai
CDN. I'm not 100% sure if they utilise PipeIX (I think they do), but
regardless I do believe some ISP's peer with Akamai directly so it shouldn't
pose that much impact for providers that have strong peering partnerships.

 Just my two cents on the issue, but it does commoditise cloud based storage
for the average user, so I could see a potential negative impact for
providers, so it's a great discussion to be had. *wink* any providers want
to offer their thoughts? *wink*

 Cheers

 Angelo

Sent from my iPhone

On 03/09/2011, at 8:44 PM, Skeeve Stevens <Skeeve at eintellego.net> wrote:

   Hey all,

 I've been thinking about the impact that iCloud (by Apple) will have on the
Internet.

 My guess is that 99% of consumer internet access is Asymmetrical (DSL,
Cable, wireless, etc) and iCloud when launched will 'upload' obscene amounts
of gigs of music, tv, backups, email, photos, documents/data and so on to
their data centres.

 Now, don't misunderstand me, I love the concept of iCloud, as I do DropBox,
but from an Access Providers perspective, I'm thinking this might be a 'bad
thing'.

 From what I can see there are some key issues:

   - Users with plans that count upload and download together.
   - The speed of Asymmetric tail technology such as DSL
   - The design of access provider backhaul (from DSLAM to core) metrics
   - The design of some transit metrics

So basically the potential issue is that a large residential provider could
have thousands of users connect to iCloud, their connections slowed because
of uploading data, burning their included bandwidth caps, slowing down the
backhaul segment of the network, and as residential providers are mostly
download, some purchase transit from their upstreams in an symmetric
fashion.

 This post is really just to prompt discussion if people think there is
anything to actually worry about, or there are other implications that I've
not really thought of yet.

 …Skeeve

 --

Skeeve Stevens, CEO - eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists

 <skeeve at eintellego.net>skeeve at eintellego.net ; <http://www.eintellego.net>
www.eintellego.net

Phone: 1300 753 383 ; Fax: (+612) 8572 9954

Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve

facebook.com/eintellego or  <eintellego at facebook.com>eintellego at facebook.com

twitter.com/networkceoau ;  <http://www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve>
www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve

PO Box 7726, Baulkham Hills, NSW 1755 Australia


 --

eintellego - The Experts that the Experts call

- Juniper - HP Networking - Cisco - Brocade

 _______________________________________________
AusNOG mailing list
AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.ausnog.net/pipermail/ausnog/attachments/20110903/d51dde56/attachment.html>