<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Possibly, but wouldn't it make sense for Apple to haul it all via a CDN instead?</div><div><br></div><div>And they could cache it on their local mirrors, but it could pose issues with music storage (seeing as it could potentially be stored on multiple caches) which I didn't think of. </div>
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<div>I believe majority of Apple's iCloud service will be delivered by Akamai CDN. I'm not 100% sure if they utilise PipeIX (I think they do), but regardless I do believe some ISP's peer with Akamai directly so it shouldn't pose that much impact for providers
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<div>Just my two cents on the issue, but it does commoditise cloud based storage for the average user, so I could see a potential negative impact for providers, so it's a great discussion to be had. *wink* any providers want to offer their thoughts? *wink*</div>
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<div>My guess is that 99% of consumer internet access is Asymmetrical (DSL, Cable, wireless, etc) and iCloud when launched will 'upload' obscene amounts of gigs of music, tv, backups, email, photos, documents/data and so on to their data centres. </div>
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<div>Now, don't misunderstand me, I love the concept of iCloud, as I do DropBox, but from an Access Providers perspective, I'm thinking this might be a 'bad thing'.<br>
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<div>From what I can see there are some key issues:</div>
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<div>So basically the potential issue is that a large residential provider could have thousands of users connect to iCloud, their connections slowed because of uploading data, burning their included bandwidth caps, slowing down the backhaul segment of the network,
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<div>This post is really just to prompt discussion if people think there is anything to actually worry about, or there are other implications that I've not really thought of yet.</div>
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