[AusNOG] Alternative to NBN?

Fri May 20 11:05:48 EST 2011

I agree!

The sad part about people harping on about Wireless Internet technology is
that they don't understand it terribly well. I know I'm probably preaching
to the converted but.

Higher speed wireless requires a tighter bandwidth signal which means that
it does work so well in densely populated areas so the Telco's are forced to
put more towers in to compensate for this issue. More towers means more
money to put those towers in, approval from council etc. to put said towers
in place, strong opposition from the general public about why more of these
towers have to put installed and finally more maintenance!

Not to mention that weather and other atmospheric conditions can adversely
affect these towers which will limit their capabilities. You must also
factor in the topology of the terrain and how these wireless technologies
fail to work in valleys and for a lot of the Perth hills.

On these alone it's not to understand why the current NBN plan is more
superior than any other suggested plan.

Regards,

Mark Stewart

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From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net
[mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Andrew Oskam
Sent: Thursday, 19 May 2011 1:02 PM
To: 'Damien Morris'; 'AusNOG'
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Alternative to NBN?

I'm still loving how everyone is raving about wireless as the "be all, end
all" . 

They want this high speed 4G network to happen but they don't consider the
backbone of it all.

Makes me laugh every time :P

Andrew Oskam

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[mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Damien Morris
Sent: Thursday, 19 May 2011 1:37 PM
To: 'AusNOG'
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Alternative to NBN?

I heard Malcolm Turnbull giving an answer on Lateline last night that was
almost word-for-word the same response he gave me at the Vocus DC launch
last year.

Where is all this mythical 100mb/s-to-the-home capacity that already exists
in X% of the country..? :)

On 18/05/11 2:40 AM, "Mark Stewart" <mark at nabc.com.au> wrote:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/05/17/gchq_plt/

And this just showed up on the reg. How topical J

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From: Mark Newton [mailto:newton at internode.com.au] 
Sent: Monday, 16 May 2011 8:09 PM
To: Mark Stewart
Cc: Skeeve Stevens; AusNOG
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Alternative to NBN?

On 15/05/2011, at 10:57 PM, Mark Stewart wrote:

Synergy (Western Power) were working on Internet over Power some years ago
in South Perth and some other areas which was canned due to some issues with
Ham radio users?

It wasn't just ham radio, although that's what the power companies
emphasised.

Broadband over power lines turned sections of the electrical grid into

giant broadcast antennae, spraying RF in all directions.  The fifth

harmonic blatted air traffic control frequencies, which is probably the

number one reason why the technology was never, ever going to... fly.

   - mark

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